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Old 05-20-2003, 08:07 PM   #1
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SeaCrop.Com - Nano Pack

Well Im at it again. This time I plan on giving a review of www.seacrop.com 's Nano Pack bundle.

You can read more about this on their website from the link below.

http://www.seacrop.com/Bumper%20Crop.htm#Nano%20Packs

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Nano Packs consist of small CPR coral frags, mushroom rocks with 1-2 'shrooms, small pieces star/button polyp rocks, etc.. All are very healthy pieces that are 2" or less in size- perfect for a nano tank or just to add a lot of variety without spending a fortune.

When ordering packs, please specify how many pieces of the following types of coral you wish to receive: Mushrooms, Polyps, Hard Corals, SPS Corals, Soft Corals. You cannot specify species.
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CPR stands for Coral Polyp RescueTM . These are wild collected corals that came in damaged. Instead of throwing them away, we have instituted a program to save the remaining animal. We either frag the healthy portion or in the case of certain stony corals offer them at a greatly reduced price. By doing this, we are saving animals that would normally be destined for the trash can because they are unmarketable to retail pet shops and we're saving you money. Frags will be unmounted unless otherwise noted.
They have two different Nano packs to pick from. One includes 6 CPR frags and one includes 12. The prices are very reasonable in my view at $40 and $75.

I have ordered the 12 frag pack and just for a nice selection I requested 2 of each types they offer on the nano pack.

Like normal I will take pleny of photos and include them here. The shippment is scheduled to arrive Thursday.

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Can't wait for some photos!
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That sounds like something I would be interested in as well. Will be waiting to hear your opinions and see the pics.
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Just got an e-mail confirming the total amount of the order is $117

So that breaks down to $75 for the frags and $42 for shipping.

Since i ordered the 12 nano frag pack that comes to $9.75 per frag after shipping.

Seems like a great deal. We will all see tomorrow.
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Old 05-22-2003, 12:28 PM   #5
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Everything arrived just prior to 11AM. The frags are in a bucket drip acclomating now.

Photos will follow this evening.
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Old 05-22-2003, 12:55 PM   #6
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Ok.

This is what was listed on the packing sheet

3 Mushroom
1 Turbinaria
1 Blastomussa merleti
1 Candy
1 Pavona
1 Yellow Porites
1 Carpet Leather
1 Capnella
1 Green Star Polp
1 Yellow Polyp

I sent Mary at Seacrop an e-mail yesterday morning telling her the weather reports where calling for a high of only 60F today and I requested a heat pack be added to the shippment. Thats exactly what she did and when I opened the package the heat pack (while it was not hot) was still slighly warm to the touch.

Everything was packaged nice and neat in its own little bag. Some items where wrapped around styrofoam to keep them afloat upside down in the water.

Most items where the size of a quarter I would say but a few of the items where larger than that.

Just like on sea crop's website most of the corals did not come attached so part of the acclomation procedure will involve using some kind of epoxy or gel superglue to attach them to rock rubble or larger rocks.
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Are ya done?? When do we see some pics?? Stop teasing us.....
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What kind of epoxy will you use? Can you give me a name of the product?
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Ok. For those bandwidth impared I am going to link to the photos vs puting them all here because we are talkinga about lot of photos.

http://www.vafishfreek.com/gallery/album09

The above link will take you to the SeaCrop album. I will update this album with photos over the next few weeks to show the progress. Obviously most things are not out as they are still recovering from shippment.
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Over all which was the better experience, this one or Jeffs?
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Jeff's will net you larger corals overall but you only get 9 of them and the net cost after shipping was just under $20 each. Seacrop's nanopack #2 includes 12 coral frags. They are smaller in size than jeff's but you get 3 more for less money. The net cost from seacrop per frag is under $10 so in essence they are 1/2 the price.

The nano pack holds to its name and its truly for a nano reef that cant take large specimens or for a larger tank that the hobbiests might be looking for some smaller specimnes to act as filler or someone who is willing to put the time into watching them grow larger.

I will report back in the next few days and then about a week or so on how things are doing.

They both where pleasureable experences and I would be willing to purchase from either place again.
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What kind of epoxy will you use? Can you give me a name of the product?
I used an aquamarine epoxy that I got from Lowes. Its a two part epoxy that you mix up when your ready to use it.

I put rather generious amounts of epoxy on both the underside of the frag and on the rock i was attaching it to. I tried to try the rock and the underside of the frag as best I could befor applying.

The epoxy will setup and harden after a short period of time.

I attached all the frags that needed it about 1/2 way thru the drip acclomation. This way after the frag has been attached i put it back into the bucket to finish the acclomation.

On the two soft corals I use Gel Superglue. I used a fair amount on the rock so it was a nice mound of superglue. then i put some on the bottom of the frag and stuck it to the rock.
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Jeff's will net you larger corals overall but you only get 9 of them and the net cost after shipping was just under $20 each. Seacrop's nanopack #2 includes 12 coral frags. They are smaller in size than jeff's but you get 3 more for less money. The net cost from seacrop per frag is under $10 so in essence they are 1/2 the price.

The nano pack holds to its name and its truly for a nano reef that cant take large specimens or for a larger tank that the hobbiests might be looking for some smaller specimnes to act as filler or someone who is willing to put the time into watching them grow larger.

I will report back in the next few days and then about a week or so on how things are doing.

They both where pleasureable experences and I would be willing to purchase from either place again.
Ok, but which one was a more satisfying experience? Or was it about the same. From your pics, the description of their size and the species sent (that you don't get to pick), if it were me in your shoes, I would have been disappointed. Certainly unintentional, but you were sent 3 out of the 12 specie of something you already had. For the price...the size wasn't too bad, but I'm sure you expected a little larger frags. I would have been supremely upset when the leather came in with hair algae all over it....Of course, you are not me, and I have not purchased from them, so in your opinion, was one experience better than the other for someone with a larger tank than a nano?
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Well, while its true you can not select the exact species you can only select the general type I did request 2 of each type. Since their where 6 categories that gave me the 12 frags. I figured this way I would get a good sample to review from. In one of the many e-mails seacrop told me they where running low on the sps nano frags and wanted to know if I would prefer to delay the shipment until they had a better supply of sps or if I just wanted to keep the delivery date. I am sure I could have changed my selection after I was informed of this but I did not so the way I see it I left it up to Mary to select the 12the frag rather than specifying that the third one be one of the other main classes.

I also would prefer to be able to pick the exact 12 frags down to the individual species but I can understand why Seacrop does not offer this. Remember these frags are frags of corals that for one reason or another are not one that the parent company MSI is able to ship to their LFS customers. So instead of just tossing them aside Seacrop is offering these coals a second chance by selling them as CPR frags. So at any given moment the inventory of CPR frags will be changing. Aside from constantly updating a webpage showing all the species and genus that is available for CPR frag packs they just have you pick from the major coral classification groups.

Both vendors where good to deal with.

I would say both are deals. If I am forced to compare the two Seacrop gives you more corals for less $. Sure they are overall smaller in size but you also are able to get corals that are not offered as part of the 9 for 99 special. Most of the 9 for 99 are softies or mushrooms. Its possible with the seacrop nanopack to select none of a particular type and more or most of another type. To review real quick the following are the 6 main types of frags they offer " Mushrooms, Polyps, Hard Corals, SPS Corals, Soft Corals". So if you wanted to not have any shrooms or soft corals you could just leave them off your list.

As you had made a comment about the 9 for 99 before about how you where not going to get any 'display case' items and most are more of a drab color the seacrop frags (from only 1 day of observation) appear to be full of color.

I had not noticed the leather with the hair algae on it when I was unpacking them. In fact I did nto even notice those strands of something until it was in the tank under the lights. Im not quite sure what they are and im not quite sure where they came from but I would not be surprised if they did not get picked up some how during the attachment process or the acclimation process when the superglue was still rather soft.

For someone with a larger tank I would say you would have more to look at with the 9 for 99 simply cause the size on average is larger per frag. Of course if you live in an area with a good selection of LFS's im sure the 9 for 99 corals are much smaller in size than what one would get locally. For those with a larger tank and your looking for some color to fill some holes or your willing to invest in a smaller size coral and watch it grow the seacrop pack is just the thing.

I am happy with the 'VALUE' of the seacrop nano pack priced between $6.25-$6.66 per frag before shipping they are a good value for the size in my book. Of course the 9 for 99 would be a better value at $11 per coral before shipping if one was lucky enough to visit the store and hand select the corals and not have to pay shipping. Once you factor in shipping costs for me the seacrop cost per frag was almost 1/2 of the 9 for 99 cost per coral.

There is something to be said for what Mary and Seacrop is doing in saving small or slightly lower quality specimens from the trashbin and offering them to hobbiest. Sure its not going to save the coral reefs but it does give an animal a fighting chance at survival.
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Any chance you could rename the photos to reflect what they are (as opposed to seacorp1, seacorp2, etc). Not all of us can just name a coral by sight, or at all for that matter

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Pictures look good!

How do these relate in size to what you got from Jeff's Exotic? What sort of time frame are we talking about until these frags get to be a decent size?

Thanks for the research!
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Ignore my last post, didn't realize my questions were answered on a second page of posts...

I guess I just got to excited by the photos to press on...
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Any chance you could rename the photos to reflect what they are (as opposed to seacorp1, seacorp2, etc). Not all of us can just name a coral by sight, or at all for that matter

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Yes I am going to properly identify the photos today. Yesterday I did not bother with it as I wanted to put the photos up.
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Cool, can't wait!
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