Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Freshwater & Brackish - Planted Tanks
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 06-27-2017, 01:18 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Aquatecture's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 53
Monte Carlo Melting

Hi Guys,

Need help! I recently added 25 neon tetras in my tank and after a week or 2 some of my monte carlos turned brown. I don't know whats causing my monte carlo to turn brown and melt? So far all I did was to put in some fish and before Introduced my fishes to the tank filled with healthy monte carlo, I made sure that my water is in good condition. Please anyone help! I've attached some pictures of my test before I put in my fishes.

Before putting tetras

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_7611.jpg
Views:	178
Size:	240.9 KB
ID:	300852
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_7558.jpg
Views:	97
Size:	193.3 KB
ID:	300851

After with tetras
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_8163.jpg
Views:	114
Size:	274.9 KB
ID:	300849Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_8164.jpg
Views:	110
Size:	268.7 KB
ID:	300850

Should I take the tetras out of my tank? Anyone help please? Hoping it's not yet too late before My tank gets wiped out!
__________________

__________________
Aquatecture is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2017, 01:27 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
toolman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,275
The fish would not be the cause of your Monte Carlo melting, maybe a plant guru can give you more information on cause. I'm just a guy with plants in my tank, plant them, fertilize them and hope they live. Lol

What light do you have, what tank size (especially depth), and do you add fertilizer? You have some kind of deficiency I believe.
__________________

__________________
toolman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2017, 01:34 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Aquatecture's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 53
Specs would be

Tank size
350mm x 350mm x 600mm

Lights
Ada Aquasky
__________________
Aquatecture is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2017, 01:50 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Bert2oo1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,562
0 nitrates is your problem, the monte is starving to death. U want to keep it around 20ppm
__________________
Bert2oo1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2017, 07:35 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Aquatecture's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert2oo1 View Post
0 nitrates is your problem, the monte is starving to death. U want to keep it around 20ppm


Bert how do i keep nitrates up?
__________________
Aquatecture is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2017, 07:40 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Addict
Community Moderator
 
Fresh2o's Avatar



Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 12,863
What are you adding in terms of fertilizers and CO2?
__________________
I am an ALGAE farmer.
Terms of Service | Community Rules | FresH2O's Planted Tank | Fresh2o's Shrimp Tank
Fresh2o is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2017, 07:42 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Aquatecture's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fresh2o View Post
What are you adding in terms of fertilizers and CO2?


Fresh!!!! None ever since tank setup last 7 months maybe?
__________________
Aquatecture is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2017, 07:43 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Aquatecture's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fresh2o View Post
What are you adding in terms of fertilizers and CO2?


Pressurized Co2 would still be the same ever since tank setup.
__________________
Aquatecture is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2017, 07:54 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Bert2oo1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,562
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquatecture View Post
Pressurized Co2 would still be the same ever since tank setup.


I'd say your substrate has ran out of nutrients so you will now have to dose the water column. Best way to do it is PPS pro or EI dosing. You can buy the kits from nilcoG or you can buy all the dry salts seperate and mix your own.

I quick google search will give u all the info u need on EI or PPS pro dosing
__________________
Bert2oo1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2017, 07:57 PM   #10
Aquarium Advice Addict
Community Moderator
 
Fresh2o's Avatar



Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 12,863
You really need to strike a balance between lights, CO2, and fertilizers. Else, you may get growth deficiencies, algae, or both.
Dry salts (or fertilizers) are often recommended because of their effectiveness, ease of use, and cost (low). There are two primary types: Estimative Index (EI) and Perpetual Preservation System (PPS). More info on these can be found at Green Leaf Aquatics and NilocG. Basically, you mix the fertilizers with water and dose daily as instructed. It is designed to provide more fertilizers than the plants need so there is no deficiency. I like PPS-Pro (from GLA).
There are several liquid based fertilizers; I would recommend a combination of Seachem Flourish Comprehensive and API Leaf Zone. I used that for about a year before switching to PPS-Pro.
I remember this tank. You started this at the beginning of the year. Some sick, sick MC growth you got there! Very impressive.
__________________
I am an ALGAE farmer.
Terms of Service | Community Rules | FresH2O's Planted Tank | Fresh2o's Shrimp Tank
Fresh2o is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2017, 08:24 PM   #11
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Aquatecture's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 53
Thanks, bert and Fresh! Approximately, how long before it gets wiped out ? I may need more time before I can get fertilizers! So there's a chance it may spread? I'm looking at it right now and it's spreading started with just a small patch. Yikes!

Fresh! Yup it started with so little mc's and now it grew by the dozen. I tried making them spread instead of buying another batch of mc. It's expensive here just buying a sq foot of mc patch.
__________________
Aquatecture is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2017, 10:45 PM   #12
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Bert2oo1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,562
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquatecture View Post
Thanks, bert and Fresh! Approximately, how long before it gets wiped out ? I may need more time before I can get fertilizers! So there's a chance it may spread? I'm looking at it right now and it's spreading started with just a small patch. Yikes!

Fresh! Yup it started with so little mc's and now it grew by the dozen. I tried making them spread instead of buying another batch of mc. It's expensive here just buying a sq foot of mc patch.


You can dim your lighting to reduce uptake of nutrients. This might help it spreading so fast. Or if u have a fish store near buy go and get some flourish by seachem and dose to recommended untill you can get your dry ferts sorted out
__________________
Bert2oo1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2017, 10:09 AM   #13
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Ashenwelt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
Posts: 476
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert2oo1 View Post
You can dim your lighting to reduce uptake of nutrients. This might help it spreading so fast. Or if u have a fish store near buy go and get some flourish by seachem and dose to recommended untill you can get your dry ferts sorted out
If nitrates are two low look at flourish nitrogen as flourish has no macros.

I like Ultum Natures ferts personally, although the thrive series is also good. Those are macros with micros keeping things simple.
__________________

__________________
----------------------------------------
Rob aka Ashenwelt
- 5 Gallons is for more than Bettas
- YOU NEED PLANTS!!!!
Ashenwelt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For Sale: Micra Monte Carlo MINIMAL Classifieds 0 11-30-2015 12:03 AM
Monte Carlo help RexDarr Freshwater & Brackish - Planted Tanks 3 11-04-2015 12:40 PM
Wanted: Monte carlo RUBE31 Archive 0 06-17-2015 09:04 PM
For Sale/Trade: Micranthemum umbrosa 'Monte Carlo' - Carpeting plant aluka Archive 6 03-06-2015 01:30 AM
Wanted: WTB: Emersed Plants Glosso/Monte Carlo/Stems azmodan Archive 0 07-22-2014 04:46 PM







» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.