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Old 04-12-2007, 11:07 PM   #1
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Val? Plant ID

Can anybody help me id this plant?



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Old 04-13-2007, 01:20 AM   #2
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Looks like a crypt, (possibly balansae).
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Not a crypt (crypts fon't put out 3-4 foot long leaves in a matter of days). Probably Jungle val.
aka: Vallisneria americana (gigantea)
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Sorry I missed this. That looks like jungle val to me.
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All of the pics of jungle val I've seen, the edges of the leaves are smooth, as where these have a ripple in them. I've never had jungle val, so I guess this is more of a question than a statement.
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:42 PM   #6
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It is definitely not jungle val, or any kind of val for that matter. Where does it say it grew several feet in a few days? It has wavy edges, which vals don't, ithas a prominent vein up the middle which vals don't. If you look at the roots, you will see that there are rhizomes, which vals also don't have. It is a crypt.
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:53 PM   #7
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I think BillD may be correct, those do look like crypt roots and runners to me as well. Not sure which type though.
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it looks exactly like crypt. retrospiralis. and it IS a fast grower. those are crypt roots, not val runners.
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Not a jungle val, those roots don't look like any val I have ever seen. I am also voting Crypt.
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Old 04-13-2007, 03:07 PM   #10
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Not a crypt (crypts fon't put out 3-4 foot long leaves in a matter of days). Probably Jungle val.
aka: Vallisneria americana (gigantea)
I have a Wendtii that grew the height of my 55 gallon tank in a few days, and its classified as a foreground plant.
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The images of Crypt. Retrospiralis I have found show it growing immersed. This plant would not support its own weight.

The growth you see is about 6 months worth. I took it out of my 29 because of shading issues. Since the 55 is the same height, I really don't know what to do with it. I just wanted to identify it before I tried to pawn it off. I may keep one of the babies for now but I think I will offer it on the barter forum.

Can I provide different images to help identify it? Anything specific? Does crypt. retrospiralis grow different when submersed vs. immersed? If not, the I'm not sure that is what this is.
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The images of Crypt. Retrospiralis I have found show it growing immersed. This plant would not support its own weight.

The growth you see is about 6 months worth. I took it out of my 29 because of shading issues. Since the 55 is the same height, I really don't know what to do with it. I just wanted to identify it before I tried to pawn it off. I may keep one of the babies for now but I think I will offer it on the barter forum.

Can I provide different images to help identify it? Anything specific? Does crypt. retrospiralis grow different when submersed vs. immersed? If not, the I'm not sure that is what this is.
Sorry, I was wrong. Now that I look again, there are pretty prominent center veins, and more "wave" than w/ my vals. Also - 6m Crypt growth equals about 6 weeks of val growth... Also - the runners looked too long to be crypt (but I have a wendtii, new plants pop up right near "mom" while I have vals pop up clear across the tank).
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It looks like Crypt balansae or retrospiralis to me. Those roots are definitely crypt roots.
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