Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Freshwater & Brackish - Planted Tanks
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 02-27-2015, 12:23 AM   #1
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
RevLine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: new jersey
Posts: 135
welp. i messed up royally

bought 2 pots of dwarf baby tears (cuba kind) today for a 2.2 gallon cube aquascape i'm planning. first time handling them.

the first pot was a disaster. did it with my fingers. it ended up being separated into, quite literally for half of them, single-stemmed/rooted portions of DBT as i took off wool...

did better with the second one by cutting portions. but now i just have clumps of fragments from the first pot just half-floating, half planted into the fluorite gravel as best as i can in the container i'm using for dry start method with little DBT fragments floating everywhere.

i guess there's no denying that i dug myself a hole into planting these fragments individually when i aquascape huh? and will the floating and single fragments survive?
__________________

__________________
RevLine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2015, 12:07 AM   #2
member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 61
Might wanna invest in some aquascaping tools.

Sent from my SGH-T999 using Aquarium Advice mobile app
__________________

__________________
shrimpybuisness is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2015, 09:51 AM   #3
Aquarium Advice Addict
Community Moderator
 
Brian_Nano12g's Avatar



POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Arizona
Posts: 6,147
I'm confused, is this attempt with the DBT (HC) with the DSM? If so, why are there "fragments floating everywhere" as if it's flooded already? And yes, some good pinsettes or long tweezers would make planting the HC much easier. Are you going to be injecting co2? What's your fertilizer regimen going to be? Is lighting moderate to high (30+ PAR)?
__________________
- [ADA 60P] - [ADA 60F] - [GLA 6g] - [26g] - [2.1g Cube]
Brian_Nano12g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2015, 03:10 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
RevLine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: new jersey
Posts: 135
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian_Nano12g View Post
I'm confused, is this attempt with the DBT (HC) with the DSM? If so, why are there "fragments floating everywhere" as if it's flooded already? And yes, some good pinsettes or long tweezers would make planting the HC much easier. Are you going to be injecting co2? What's your fertilizer regimen going to be? Is lighting moderate to high (30+ PAR)?
this is HC. and because i had the substrate sloped. the lower section showed more water, so that's where they've been floating around. but i've actually lowered the water level now to the lowest part of the substrate and yes, i now have invested in a good set of tweezers and i've planted the fragments as best as i can.

i don't have CO2 injection but i have flourish excel and planning to use a liquid fert. as for the lighting, it will be under one of those $15 LED aquarium lights that you can get on amazon. it's a 2.2 gallon so i didn't think it would need something very expensive, no?

this is model light i'm getting:
Vktech 24 LEDs Aquarium Fishbowl Clip Light Lamp

description says 3.5w and sorry i am not well-educated on lighting as far as PAR and lumens go.
__________________
RevLine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2015, 05:23 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Addict
Community Moderator
 
Brian_Nano12g's Avatar



POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Arizona
Posts: 6,147
Well there's just too many variables with unknown lighting. Hopefully you'll get at least moderate light being that tank is so small. HC is certainly not an easy plant. It's quite needy of light, ferts, and especially carbon. I've only grown it with co2... Hopefully you can find the right balance with liquid carbon in lieu of it. It's still a carbon source, but in terms of effectiveness, on a scale of 1 to 10, where co2 is a 10, it's like a 6. So you may have to dose fairly heavy and often relative to the 2g tank, but not too much to cause harm. The tricky part is when you transition from DSM to flooded conditions. Usually, co2 is cranked up to help as HC acclimates to being submerged. After all, HC is one of those plants that prefers emersed conditions and that's why it's so CO2/carbon needy.. IME, it also needs nitrates. Anyways, good luck and let us know how it turns out.
__________________
- [ADA 60P] - [ADA 60F] - [GLA 6g] - [26g] - [2.1g Cube]
Brian_Nano12g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2015, 06:20 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
RevLine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: new jersey
Posts: 135
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian_Nano12g View Post
Well there's just too many variables with unknown lighting. Hopefully you'll get at least moderate light being that tank is so small. HC is certainly not an easy plant. It's quite needy of light, ferts, and especially carbon. I've only grown it with co2... Hopefully you can find the right balance with liquid carbon in lieu of it. It's still a carbon source, but in terms of effectiveness, on a scale of 1 to 10, where co2 is a 10, it's like a 6. So you may have to dose fairly heavy and often relative to the 2g tank, but not too much to cause harm. The tricky part is when you transition from DSM to flooded conditions. Usually, co2 is cranked up to help as HC acclimates to being submerged. After all, HC is one of those plants that prefers emersed conditions and that's why it's so CO2/carbon needy.. IME, it also needs nitrates. Anyways, good luck and let us know how it turns out.
Thanks Brian! i really appreciate your informative input. i guess it's gonna have to go through some good old experimentation/trail and error! i am stocking this tank with sakura shrimp and thai micro crabs. should i hold off on putting them in until after HC acclimates with the relatively heavy CO2 dosing?
__________________
RevLine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2015, 10:21 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Addict
Community Moderator
 
Brian_Nano12g's Avatar



POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Arizona
Posts: 6,147
Yeah I'd wait.
__________________

__________________
- [ADA 60P] - [ADA 60F] - [GLA 6g] - [26g] - [2.1g Cube]
Brian_Nano12g is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
advice, baby, dry, dwarf, floating, method, planted, start, tears

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Welp.... c0mf0rt Saltwater Reef Aquaria 3 01-15-2005 12:34 AM
Welp, just ordered my XP3... christerrell2k3 General Hardware/Equipment Discussion 8 12-15-2003 01:40 PM
hmmm, i think i messed up (again) meow Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 9 10-05-2003 10:49 PM
PLEASE answer (ok, i messed up...now what) adshuraj777 Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 16 03-30-2003 09:01 PM
oops...i messed up NIFTYneil Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 2 09-10-2002 05:43 PM







» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.