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Old 05-13-2010, 10:01 PM   #41
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New pics, added the remaining LR, prep for new fish

I added the remaining 50-70 lb of LR and did a gravel vac and changed about 10% of the water (not that it needed it, Nitrates 1-2 ppm, everything else 0).

There's a coral swap on Saturday, hopefully I can score some fish...






You can tell the new from the stuff that's been in there for a month, brown algae. Need CUC ASAP!

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Old 05-14-2010, 06:12 AM   #42
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Awesome Floyd. Good to hear about those paras.
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Old 06-03-2010, 10:37 PM   #43
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New Fish eat new fish, old fish is dead fish

Well, it's been a hectic couple of weeks, started a new job after the last post and finally broke down and decided to just get fish at the LFS since they had a good selection and they had been there a week or so, and the price was right. Plus he kept bugging me every time I went in there.

So here's what I put in there on 5/30:

Koran Angel



Kole Yellow-Eye Tang and 2 Ocellaris Clownfish



Niger Trigger



Six-Line Wrasse



Coral Beauty Angel



6 Green Chromis



And a Diamond Goby that refused to come out and have his picture taken.

Here's the full tank shot:



Oh and the day I called to tell him I just bought $300 worth of fish, he told me the Yellow Tang died. He said it's fins turned red and splotchy, after some research I'm guessing it was a nutritional deficiency (the food I had them feeding him was pretty old, and they weren't giving him much nori) but they also mentioned that the tank lights stayed on all night one day (probably because I forgot to switch it from "on" back to "timer" one day - oops) and he was zipping around the tank like crazy and then died 2 days later. I think it was a miracle he survived at all, and he would never come out of hiding so there was definitely long-term stress and I'm sure that just pushed him over the edge. At least I didn't have to deal with him getting territorial.

So that being said, 6 Chromis the first day (5/30), 5 Chromis the next day (5/31), 4 by 6/1, and when I went in there to check it out the Trigger had white spots on him so I freaked out, called the LFS and had them meet me out there on 6/2 and the spots were gone, along with all but 1 Chromis - who was getting hunted by the trigger. The other 3 were dead in the sump, so I netted the remaining one and put him down since he was all beat up.

So $30 of fish down the drain, but at least no ich/velvet, they ate well (got new food, and a variety) and are 'begging', so they're acting healthy and the owner is happier.
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Unlucky with the Chromis', yet expected. Nice Koran. Don't worry about the Sixline being eaten, he's way to good for the Niger. Nice job as always Floyd.
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Keep up the excellent work Floyd - chromis = cheap food!
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Aww that's just mean. I love my little Chromis very much.
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I just bought five Chromis. Love their coloring and that they're sassy
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Long overdue update!!

I can't believe I haven't updated this thread since June. I've been too busy with job change and other tanks I guess!!

So since the last post, there was a rash of fish deaths since all the Chromies were eaten, first both of the clowns disappeared and reappeared as bones, then the Coral Beauty suffered the same fate. The Koran Angel got picked on by the Six-Line Wrasse of all fish, the Koran had little white growths on its fins (I can’t remember what they are called, but one LFS said it was akin to a wart, started with an ‘L’) and the six-line picked at them and got a taste for it or something. He chased that big fish all over the place, then he faded out gray. I tried to get the six-line out with no luck and the Koran died the next day. Bummer. The last to go was the Diamond Watchman Goby, bones again.

So that left 3: the Niger Trigger, Kole Yellow-Eyed Tang, and Six-Line Wrasse. I let those guys it tight for about 2 months to make sure there was nothing else going on in the tank. The owners kept bugging me, saying they wanted more fish, and I just told them to sit tight.

Then the restaurant changed owners, the new owner is a relative of the old owner, a younger couple, and the guy understands more about saltwater, and understood why I wanted to go slow.

Things were fine for a couple weeks, then I got a call that they had a dying fish. Turns out that one of the waiters (who has a SW tank of his own) decided that it was time to get some new fish, so he went to the LFS and got a Rectagulus Trigger and a Lionfish! He probably didn’t acclimate them properly, and probably didn’t research very much, and surely didn’t tell me he was doing it. The Trigger ate the fins off the Lionfish and he was dead by the end of the day.

Cool looking trigger though!





The same employee also re-arranged all the rock, which was now precariously stacked for a crash, and took the return jets and pointed them straight down, thinking that would help with the algae problem on the substrate. Thankfully, they did not have a power outage, or else they would have 20+ gallons on the floor, or a rockslide and 200 gallons on the floor!!!

I got a steal of a deal on 9/26 from a guy taking his tank down and split the fish up into 2 tanks. This one got a beautiful Sailfin Tang





And a 6-8” Magnificent Fox Face (no pic yet). They did well, big enough to keep the R. Trig in his place, though he did chase the Sailfin around for a couple hours.

Then on 10/3, I found someone locally getting rid of what they thought was a Tomato Clown, and I thought great! He came with a Rose Bubble-Tip Amenome that he was hosting on. Turns out he was a Yellow Strip Maroon Clown, I was worried at first because I’ve heard these can be aggressive, but that turned out to be the opposite.







I got him acclimated and put in, and the R. Trig went right after him and continued for about 3 hours. I got an emergency call to take him out or ‘he would be dead by the next day’. I got there a few hours later and everything had calmed down, and now everyone is fine. The RBTA even opens up nicely under the actinics at night (only the 10,000Ks are on during lunch hours) and it’s not getting eaten by the other fish. The M. Clown sits there and hangs out in it most of the day.

3 and a half weeks later and everything is doing well. Now that Fall is finally here, the tank temp has cooled off to the point where I plugged one of the heaters back in and it’s staying around 75-78 and the algae growth has waned.

Nitrates vary up and down, I’ve tested as low as 5 and as high as 25 so not sure what all is going on there, but it’s not seriously out of whack. Phosphates spiked up to 2 or 3, then they ran out of flake food and it’s down to 0.5 to 1.0, if I can trust my test kit (getting odd results – have to get a new one).

pH is good, staying over 8 and lower than 8.2, I got a Hanna meter which rocks. API said 8.3+ all the time, I think their pH kit sucks now.
Slacked on topping off the tank, but had left RO water for them and he did topped off after the pump sucked air overnight. Oops. Once in 6 months isn’t bad, is it?

I've done a few 40g PWCs but not that many as levels didn't mandate it. With the additional fish I'm thinking it will need more regular PWCs.

So the big news is that if you have been following my ATS thread, I pitched it to this customer and he gave me the go-ahead to write up a cost estimate and such to do it for his tank too. I’m thinking that will be several months down the road, as I am learning on the first one, still have a second one to modify from what I’ve learned from the first, and then I have to design a new one from the ground up for him.

Next I need to convince him to get a better light and GO REEF!!
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Wow... what a ride. lol.. tank looks pretty sweet though, did a freaking nice job of polishing that up.
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That was a great read. Thanks for sharing this story.
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wow i just read the whole thing . good job and the tank looks sweet
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Great job turbo you've did it once again
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A few concerns

I have a few concerns with a couple of the fish in the tank. Here are a few pics:

Niger Trigger (ok)



Six-Line Wrasse (ok)



Yellow Striped Maroon Clown (ok)



This next one is a Desjardin's Sailfin Tang and it looks to me like he's contracted HLLE, if you can see them in the pics, he's got the holes in his head, and they weren't there a couple of months ago.







I'm going to continue to the next post for pics of the Kole Yellow-eyed tang
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A few concerns..continued

This one is one that concerns me a bit more, because the Kole Yellow-Eyed Tang looked fine a week or two ago.

Here's what he looked like originally



That pic is back from the end of May, but he looked the same up until I took this picture on Friday:



What could this be? HLLE as well?
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Kind of looks like it. Are they getting enough sea weed/nori? Ive heard they can get it from a nutrient deficiency.
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Yeah, I think that's what it is. I asked him today while I was in there doing a 20% PWC and he was only feeding nori once a week. Also he's feeding them the stuff they wrap sushi in, I'm wondering if that stuff is not the type that they should be feeding - should they be feeding nori specifically prepared for fish or does it really make a difference?
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Not sure exactly but I would think the "vitamin enriched" stuff for fish would be better especially since they are showing signs of HLLE.
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