Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Community Forum > Member Introductions
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 08-08-2012, 12:49 AM   #1
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Greg5530's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 59
Exclamation New aquarium owner

Hello all!

I'm new to this whole aquarium experience ! My 3 1/2 year old wanted a fish and I was told that bigger tanks were easier to control than little ones! I set up the tank and let it run for a couple days and maintained a temp of 78, I was told to buy tetra safe start to jump start the bacteria! I did just this and 3 fancy guppies and 2 zebra dianos! After just 24 hours 2 guppies have died making my self pretty sad about it, I have read just about every thread I could possibly come accross and nothing is helping! I have a 20 gallon tank water temp is maintained at 78 and ph 7! I read in to the gh and kh but was told that I just needed to worry about the ph! Needless to say since then I have killed 2 more leaving 1 zebra diano to suffer! He is not looking too good! Any help,is much appreciated!
__________________

__________________
Greg5530 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 01:10 AM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Andrew McFadden's Avatar

POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: johnstown, ohio
Posts: 7,925
to AA
First thing is do you have a test kit? And what kind? It sounds to me like you should read up on this and fast before you loose all your fish. If you have any questions just ask this is a great site and people love to help or figure out problems. Your ph is not that big of a deal what is are your ammonia and nitrite levels. Hope this helps oh and these came from our article section here on AA if you want more reading material
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/fishin...tep-dark-side/

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/i-just...fish-what-now/
__________________

__________________
Andrew McFadden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 01:16 AM   #3
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Greg5530's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 59
I am using test strips and also had the local pet shop test just yesterday and ammonia was at 0 along with nitrate! I really don't want to keep lying to the kiddo and telling her that they are sleeping and the fish store will wake them up aka new one, I know it's horrible! They are really not eating at all and I keep them in a room that is maintained at 77 degrees.
__________________
Greg5530 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2012, 06:12 AM   #4
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Samzter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 3,625
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg5530
I am using test strips and also had the local pet shop test just yesterday and ammonia was at 0 along with nitrate! I really don't want to keep lying to the kiddo and telling her that they are sleeping and the fish store will wake them up aka new one, I know it's horrible! They are really not eating at all and I keep them in a room that is maintained at 77 degrees.
Welcome to AA! Most people on this site tend to use the API liquid test kits. The test strips are unreliable and do not read accurate answers. So I would advise getting the API test kits. Hope you like the site so far!
__________________
Samzter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 05:57 AM   #5
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Brandon K.A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 410
I think test strips give you a ''ballpark'' idea of your parameters, but API liquid test kit is more accurate.
__________________
Brandon K.A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 01:06 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Greg5530's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 59
Ok so all fish have officially died and I feel horrible, I'm not giving up on the tank though, what should be my next steps? I will be getting a master test kit tomorrow FYI, just test strips now gh 30, kh 40 , ph between 6.5-7.0 no2 0-0.5 and no3 appears to be 20 this is using the test strips so kind of hard to read! Any info is much appreciated
__________________
Greg5530 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 01:12 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
FishontheRock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 367
Read the two articles that Andrew posted above.
And get a liquid test kit. I have done comparative tests and had nitrite at 1 ppm with the liquid and 0ppm with the kit.
__________________
FishontheRock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 01:13 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Andrew McFadden's Avatar

POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: johnstown, ohio
Posts: 7,925
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg5530
Ok so all fish have officially died and I feel horrible, I'm not giving up on the tank though, what should be my next steps?
You need to look into getting an api test kit then move on to cycling the tank I posted articles above on how to. Since you have no fish I would do a fishless cycle. What decor do you have in the tank? Not everything is fish safe. Can you upload a picture?
__________________
Andrew McFadden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 01:16 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
paytertot's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: joplin missouri
Posts: 1,822
Definitely go fishless

http://www.aquariumadvice.com/the-al...ing/Page1.html
__________________
"A fish with his mouth closed never gets caught" -mob quote
paytertot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 01:23 PM   #10
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Andrew McFadden's Avatar

POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: johnstown, ohio
Posts: 7,925
Quote:
Originally Posted by paytertot
Thanks paytertot I just noticed I didn't have the fishless cycle article up there. Haha thanks again
__________________
Andrew McFadden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 01:29 PM   #11
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Greg5530's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 59
I will be Getting the API test kit tomorrow and will forward the test results on to the site. Here is the empty tank

Click image for larger version

Name:	image-2471880686.jpg
Views:	85
Size:	148.0 KB
ID:	111512
__________________
Greg5530 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 01:30 PM   #12
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Greg5530's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 59
I also bought the terra safe start bacteria to jump start the tank, I put this is before I even out any fish in
__________________
Greg5530 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 01:37 PM   #13
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Andrew McFadden's Avatar

POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: johnstown, ohio
Posts: 7,925
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg5530
I also bought the terra safe start bacteria to jump start the tank, I put this is before I even out any fish in
Most of that stuff is junk and never really works from my understanding. You would be better off seeing if the store you go to will give you some seeded media from there tanks. What is the thing in the middle of the tank kinda looks like a butterfly? Did you have that and just put it in there? Or did you buy that from a aquarium shop with the rest of their decor stuff?
__________________
Andrew McFadden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 01:43 PM   #14
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Greg5530's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 59
Nope everything I have I bought from the pet store aka pet smart and I have all ready asked them if them would and they declined saying that it was some sort of liability issue, no idea why but I don't know anyone else around with a freshwater tank.
__________________
Greg5530 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 01:51 PM   #15
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Andrew McFadden's Avatar

POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: johnstown, ohio
Posts: 7,925
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg5530
Nope everything I have I bought from the pet store aka pet smart and I have all ready asked them if them would and they declined saying that it was some sort of liability issue, no idea why but I don't know anyone else around with a freshwater tank.
Cool then your on the right track.
__________________
Andrew McFadden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 01:56 PM   #16
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Greg5530's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 59
Ok so I read the article on fish less cycling ang it really doesn't tell me how much ammonia I should be adding just 4 ppm so what a table spoon, I know prob so stupid but I'm trying to figure this out without harming anymore fish
__________________
Greg5530 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 02:03 PM   #17
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Andrew McFadden's Avatar

POTM Champion
Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: johnstown, ohio
Posts: 7,925
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg5530
Ok so I read the article on fish less cycling ang it really doesn't tell me how much ammonia I should be adding just 4 ppm so what a table spoon, I know prob so stupid but I'm trying to figure this out without harming anymore fish
When doing a fishless cycle you cant have fish in there so you can't harm them witch is great. What I always do is just add drops and keep testing till it reaches 4ppm. When buying ammonia it has to be pure 100% ace hardware sells it and I'm sure you can find it other places aswell.
__________________
Andrew McFadden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 02:03 PM   #18
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 224
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg5530
Ok so I read the article on fish less cycling ang it really doesn't tell me how much ammonia I should be adding just 4 ppm so what a table spoon, I know prob so stupid but I'm trying to figure this out without harming anymore fish
U don't have to put ammonia in there I didn't do Tht and my fish are just fine....did u buy the tank new or used
__________________
Guggiboy123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 02:08 PM   #19
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Greg5530's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 59
Ok so tomorrow ammonia, API test kit and let the testing begin!
__________________
Greg5530 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2012, 02:11 PM   #20
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 224
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg5530
Ok so tomorrow ammonia, API test kit and let the testing begin!
Yes just post ur results
__________________

__________________
Guggiboy123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
aquarium

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off








» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.