I will try to post pics. I know everyone will say I'm being silly again, but I think something just isn't right. I have 6 angelfish, 2 denison barbs and 2 rams in my 55g (recently rehomed a few fish). I THOUGHT I had 2 pair of angels, and 2 that are still too small to breed. I planned to give the pairs their own tanks after the first spawn, and a little experience under my belt. The 2 females in the pairs have looked plump for weeks, but wouldn't lay the eggs. I turned off the bubbles in my tank, and that very night, the first pair (a black and a gold) laid their eggs on the filter. The eggs are still there, but there are much fewer. The mom is fanning like crazy, and the dad is guarding the area like a pro, but I see her picking out more and more white ones every hour. I know this is their first spawn, so I had no doubt the eggs would not hatch. But, If there is anything WRONG, I'd like to fix it before the next try. The reason I'm worried is this : aside from the first pairs eggs seeing to go bad, the second pair laid their eggs tonight. Well, the female laid them. I purchased the second pair from a breeder (not knowing they had spawned together before, until after I had them in the big tank). The female laid the eggs on an air hose, right in front of a piece of plexi-glass. The male did nothing, let a barb eat most of the eggs as the female laid them, finally snapped out of his "trance" and chased the barb away, just to gobble down the rest of the eggs himself, while the female pecked at him half-heartedly. So, BOTH pair avoided my nicely placed plexi-glass for difficult places to lay their eggs. Neither female seemed to WANT to lay their eggs, but finally had to. The first pair is trying, but their eggs are turning white. The second pair's male ate the eggs instead of fertilizing. (So the new pair who SHOULD have eaten the eggs, haven't. While the experienced pair's eggs didn't make it 10 seconds). I would have removed the second pairs eggs, but they had to be fertilized first, right???? I understand that fish will do what they want, in their own time. I'm not trying to force or change anything. I'm just asking if all this sounds normal? And, if not, what might be the problem? (And, before anyone asks, I have stayed as far away from the tank as possible, so this time....it can't be my meddling to blame!) I tested the water tonight, just to make sure it was okay. 0 ammonia/nitrites. 10 nitrates. Everything else the same. Turning off the bubbles seemed to get the females to lay, but do the eggs need an airstone, if the parents are with them? I'm sorry for all the questions, and long post. I just hope to learn from this, so I know if everything is okay, and if I should change anything for next time. I'm going to try to post pics now. Thanks.