Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Freshwater & Brackish - Breeding
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 02-20-2017, 04:35 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5
Betta breeding

I have wanted to breed bettas for a while now and now I think is a good time for me. Currently I have one male dumbo half-moon. I've had him for a little over a year now. He's healthy and still make the occasional bubble nest. I also have a female crown tail and I've had her for 6 months. My questions would be:
1) could I breed them together? Or do they have to be the same type of betta.
2) I would prefer to buy another betta. Either a female dumbo or a male crowntail. Is there a difference in breeding the two? Is one harder?
3) Is my male too old to breed?
4) I also was wondering what the average success rate is for betta breeding? How many fish would successfully become adult bettas? Of course I know that this depends on how correctly I would do it.
If anyone could help me out that would be great. Thanks!

__________________
charlottes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2017, 07:31 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Southern United States
Posts: 101
Hello and welcome to the world of betta breeding! It's a time consuming and heartbreaking one, but one I enjoy immensely. Below I will answer your questions to the best of my ability based on show standards, textbook stuff, and experience

1. Though two different tail types CAN breed together, it creates an often unsightly looking fish and will not be accepted as a show quality fish. Combining a crowntail and a half moon will result in a "combtail" which is essentially a half moon with a few short and stubby rays on the edges of the tail. It's always safer to breed bettas of the same tail type as that's where the gene combos are well known and documented (with the exception of double tails, NEVER breed two double tails as it can cause stunting and deformity)

2. In my opinion, purchase a completely new pair. One from a breeder of known lines. I'm not sure where you got your bettas from, but unless you 100% know their genotype and the genotype of their parents (grandparents preferable as well) then you should not breed that fish. By breeding fish of unknown background, you risk passing on disease and cancers and overall weaken the betta species in general. Aquabid will sell you pairs (shoot for siblings) that are ready to breed, or even proven breeders. This is the best way to go, but a local breeder works just as well for this purpose. Perhaps it's just me, but a few other fellow betta breeders report that dumbos tend to be harder to breed. Technically it's all down to each individual fish, but for the sake of success, try to avoid dumbos.

3. Your male is definitely too old to breed. It would be a shot in the dark that he'd actually care to reproduce and raise his fry, but even if he did, the fry wouldn't be likely to have a high success rate (which is alarming given the bettas already low success rate). Ideally, you should shoot for a 7-8 month old male to breed with your female, who should be about the same age as well. Another issue with breeding old bettas other than physical and fertility issues, is the issue of ethics. Old males and females are less likely to recover from a rough spawning and this can severely injure or even kill them in the end.

4. There is no set success rate, it depends on which style you choose to use, hobbyist vs. Thai, your set up, the quality of your breeding pair, the quality of your live food, your schedule, and hundreds of other tiny things we cannot control. As a beginner, you'd be extremely lucky to even get the bettas to spawn. You'd be even more lucky to get around 25 fry. Many say bettas are the easiest egg laying fish to breed, I disagree. I can tell you that successfully raising a spawn is no easy feat.


Now I know you've likely done your research and don't want to hear me drone on as I am about to in this bottom paragraph, but as a betta breeder and fanatic, I like to make sure that everyone goes into betta breeding responsibly and ethically. Have you thought of all the money that goes into this? You'll need hundreds of extra tanks, bins, buckets or whatever else you can house a fish in just in case you wind up with a large batch. Do you have the money and resources to deal with live food? Bettas and most fry require a diet of live food and live food is often hard to culture and is very pricey. Do you have heaters and filters for your bettas? Have you thought about what will happen to all your bettas once they've gotten to selling age? Have you arranged buyers or had a pet store agree to take them? If not, are you willing to house hundreds if not thousands of fish in proper and permanent housing if need be? Have you studied up on betta genetics? It's so crucial you understand how betta coloring and genetic patterns work if you ever wish to have success in the hobby. Have you spoken to an experienced breeder near you? Or even better gotten one to agree to mentor you? This last one may seem like a no-brainer, but have you done lots and lots of research via books, journals, films, and the internet? I don't wish to discourage you from breeding, I just want you to be aware the breeding bettas is a huge commitment and takes time and money! I hope you do end up breeding bettas and if so, I wish you the very best of luck!
__________________
_Drago_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2017, 11:54 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Andy Sager's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Lake Wales, Florida
Posts: 7,924
+1 to Drago's post. Everyone wants to do it but not many really know what they are getting into. If you are still interested, here's a link to help you as well. Make sure you read all 4 links on the left of the page.
breeding bettas
__________________
Andy Sager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 08:33 AM   #4
Aquarium Advice Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 5
Thank you so much. This has been extremely helpful!
__________________
charlottes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 09:14 AM   #5
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Southern United States
Posts: 101
Quote:
Originally Posted by charlottes View Post
Thank you so much. This has been extremely helpful!
You're welcome, please let us know how your breeding goes and if you ever have more questions, ask away!
__________________
_Drago_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 10:40 AM   #6
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
betta_boiii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 27
From my experience, leaving the fry in a 50 gal tank with a lot of java moss is just fine. They can easily reach 1 inch without feeding and when u put guppy fry in they Learn to eat flake food
__________________
betta_boiii is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 03:36 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Southern United States
Posts: 101
Quote:
Originally Posted by betta_boiii View Post
From my experience, leaving the fry in a 50 gal tank with a lot of java moss is just fine. They can easily reach 1 inch without feeding and when u put guppy fry in they Learn to eat flake food
I wouldn't recommend not feeding them as good food makes for strong, healthy, and fast growing fish. Baby bettas in fact need to eat several times daily for proper growth. Though they may possibly eat flake food, this isn't good for growth and pollutes the water majorly. Live food is the best thing that you could possibly give! You can buy large tubs of brine shrimp eggs on amazon for fairly cheap
__________________
_Drago_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2017, 10:46 AM   #8
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
betta_boiii's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by _Drago_ View Post
I wouldn't recommend not feeding them as good food makes for strong, healthy, and fast growing fish. Baby bettas in fact need to eat several times daily for proper growth. Though they may possibly eat flake food, this isn't good for growth and pollutes the water majorly. Live food is the best thing that you could possibly give! You can buy large tubs of brine shrimp eggs on amazon for fairly cheap


I definitely agree with you one hundred percent, but I tend to find that the babies grow much more resistant health in the long run although they do not grow at a fast speed
__________________
betta_boiii is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
betta, betta breeding, breed, breeding

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Breeding net or breeding box? Cory cat fish just laid eggs Keke89 Freshwater & Brackish - Breeding 2 05-02-2014 02:41 AM
any tips to breeding breeding multies hrvat31 Cichlid Discussion 0 12-15-2012 01:32 PM
Wanted: Breeding bettas or other breeding pairs? CTFlowerhornLover Archive 18 09-19-2011 02:19 AM
Breeding Rift Valley Lake Cichlid Breeding colematthewmalaka Freshwater & Brackish - Breeding 3 02-15-2009 12:40 PM
Pics of breeding convicts: my first time breeding YuccaPatrol Freshwater & Brackish - Breeding 16 02-07-2007 05:04 AM







» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.