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Old 01-17-2012, 11:33 PM   #21
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You sure they didn't eat?

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Yeah I fed them this morning with bbs and they're still there :/ so I just fed the liquid food for now and I cant trust my sister to feed them bbs tomorrow when I'm gone so I think I'll just stick with liquid fry food for about a week and then feed bbs
What you need to do is take a flashlight and look at the babies with it. With 1 or 2 brine shrimps in them, they'll have a pink belly. That's how I know they can eat it. Also, how much bbs did you feed? Maybe you put too much in which is why they're still there. Right now I am feeding 4 spawns with just about 1/32 of a teaspoon of BS eggs. They can't eat a lot when they first start swimming.

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Spawn him anyway! Not all males make nests until they have the eggs to put in them.
Set up your spawning tank with the female separated for her protection. The male should start displaying if he is interested in spawning. If you can see HER spawning colors, let her loose the next day and keep your eye on them. If they haven't spawned by the end of the day, put her back in protective custody and try again tomorrow. If she can hold her own against the male, put some hiding spots for her in the tank (I use PVC fittings) and leave her until they spawn. If that still doesn't work, Place a second male in a glass jar or something like that into the tank so that male #1 thinks there's competition. If that still doesn't work, remove male #1 and try a better feeding routine to get him into spawning shape.
This whole process shouldn't take more than 7 days. (My spawing record is 45 minutes after introduction.)
Works like a charm
Believe it or not... I have 13 bettas (now more because of more babies ^.^) hahaha and almost ALL of them have different ways of preparing and stuff haha
I have tried... EVERYTHING with him!
Haha he's one of my most gentle bettas and would never hurt another fishy no matter what... Maybe that's the problem :/ iv had him in his own 10 gallon bucket, fed him 3 times a day with brine shrimp, black worms and then flakes so he doesn't get constipated :/
I tried putting some bubble wrap, putting someone else's bubble nest in there but nothing!
I dont think he'll ever spawn lol
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Old 01-17-2012, 11:39 PM   #23
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What you need to do is take a flashlight and look at the babies with it. With 1 or 2 brine shrimps in them, they'll have a pink belly. That's how I know they can eat it. Also, how much bbs did you feed? Maybe you put too much in which is why they're still there. Right now I am feeding 4 spawns with just about 1/32 of a teaspoon of BS eggs. They can't eat a lot when they first start swimming.

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Yeah I only put one drop and checked on them and they looked at it and swam away :/ hmmm too many problems
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Old 01-17-2012, 11:48 PM   #24
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Believe it or not... I have 13 bettas (now more because of more babies ^.^) hahaha and almost ALL of them have different ways of preparing and stuff haha
I have tried... EVERYTHING with him!
Haha he's one of my most gentle bettas and would never hurt another fishy no matter what... Maybe that's the problem :/ iv had him in his own 10 gallon bucket, fed him 3 times a day with brine shrimp, black worms and then flakes so he doesn't get constipated :/
I tried putting some bubble wrap, putting someone else's bubble nest in there but nothing!
I dont think he'll ever spawn lol
If you're keeping him isolated, he may have lost that spawning edge. Try keeping him next to another male so that they can see each other. Watch his reaction. Also, cut the feeding down to 2x per day or less. You may just have a fat happy Betta who has lost his sex drive. It does happen. Give him some excercise and a diet and see what happens.
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If you're keeping him isolated, he may have lost that spawning edge. Try keeping him next to another male so that they can see each other. Watch his reaction. Also, cut the feeding down to 2x per day or less. You may just have a fat happy Betta who has lost his sex drive. It does happen. Give him some excercise and a diet and see what happens.
Hi sorry for the late reply.
When I first found him he was right at the back of all the bettas in a tiny little jar half filled where noone could see him. He was in pretty bad condition. I don't think he was being fed and he had severe fin rot.
That could have played a roll in it right?
Most of my bettas arnt too agro so they get along fine even when they can see eachother.
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Lakanooky ;)

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Hi sorry for the late reply.
When I first found him he was right at the back of all the bettas in a tiny little jar half filled where noone could see him. He was in pretty bad condition. I don't think he was being fed and he had severe fin rot.
That could have played a roll in it right?
Most of my bettas arnt too agro so they get along fine even when they can see eachother.
Absolutely!
Health is the first part of any breeding program. If the fish isn't healthy, it has no desire to reproduce. Depending on how old the fish actually is, he may have past his sexual prime or may still be not healthy enough to want to spawn. The best way to safely find out his state of mind is to put a spawnable female in a seperate glass container next to his tank. She should start showing her breeding colors within a day or two. If he doesn't respond, try ramping up his feeding routine with some vitamins and try again in about 7-10 days. If still nothing, he may just be past his prime.

A healthy Betta can spawn rather frequently. I've had some that I spawn a second time the day after I take him out of spawn #1. The second spawn isn't as large but I do it for the genes. (Right now I have a line up of females complaining about Lakanooky because my males are tired )
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Absolutely!
Health is the first part of any breeding program. If the fish isn't healthy, it has no desire to reproduce. Depending on how old the fish actually is, he may have past his sexual prime or may still be not healthy enough to want to spawn. The best way to safely find out his state of mind is to put a spawnable female in a seperate glass container next to his tank. She should start showing her breeding colors within a day or two. If he doesn't respond, try ramping up his feeding routine with some vitamins and try again in about 7-10 days. If still nothing, he may just be past his prime.

A healthy Betta can spawn rather frequently. I've had some that I spawn a second time the day after I take him out of spawn #1. The second spawn isn't as large but I do it for the genes. (Right now I have a line up of females complaining about Lakanooky because my males are tired )
He's pretty healthy now and he seems happy :/
I got a new 10 gallon tank that I'm going to keep trying to breed him in.
Would a betta still try to spawn even when they have passed their prime?
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He's pretty healthy now and he seems happy :/
I got a new 10 gallon tank that I'm going to keep trying to breed him in.
Would a betta still try to spawn even when they have passed their prime?
It depends. The fish will tell you (by making a nest or trying to court the female.)
If you are going to use a 10 gal tank, I would suggest the following:
Only fill with about 3-4 gals. water, with a heater, a piece of lettuce or floating plant and some places for the female to hide in (I use PVC fittings.) No bright light, gravel/substrate, filter, airstones or other fish. The key to using such a big tank is to not make it so far for the male to have to go to collect the eggs before the female "wakes up". You also want to make it easier for the fry to find food. ( The more water, the harder it is on the fry.)
The nice part about using such a big tank is that you shouldn't have to move the fry for quite a while. Once they have gotten used to feeding and have some size to them, I start to raise the water level no higher than half way until the labrynth organ has developed. (The lower the water level, the easier it is for the fry to get to the surface to breathe.) Once they are swimming normally, you can finish raising the water level.

Once again, your breeders need to be healthy. Try my earlier suggestion to either "bulk" him up or gauge his interest.
Keep us posted...
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my dancer loves makiong bubble nests in the corner by his heater... and lately only when his temp gets up to 80
This is the kind of info I been looking for
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SHAZAM! lol that would be a half cup full of bubbles ^.^
I love my little baby
That's insane! Who's Betta builds a bubble nest like that. Somebody dropped a Viagra in his bowl or something cuz that's gotta be 6 hours worth of um work
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Lol he did this in about 2 days lol
But I love your betta ^.^ iv never had luck with white bettas all together
That's a hot lookin white Betta isn't it?! I saw a black one the other day rare too not half as exclusive lookin tho
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Spawn him anyway! Not all males make nests until they have the eggs to put in them.
Set up your spawning tank with the female separated for her protection. The male should start displaying if he is interested in spawning. If you can see HER spawning colors, let her loose the next day and keep your eye on them. If they haven't spawned by the end of the day, put her back in protective custody and try again tomorrow. If she can hold her own against the male, put some hiding spots for her in the tank (I use PVC fittings) and leave her until they spawn. If that still doesn't work, Place a second male in a glass jar or something like that into the tank so that male #1 thinks there's competition. If that still doesn't work, remove male #1 and try a better feeding routine to get him into spawning shape.
This whole process shouldn't take more than 7 days. (My spawing record is 45 minutes after introduction.)
Works like a charm
Imma try this method
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What you need to do is take a flashlight and look at the babies with it. With 1 or 2 brine shrimps in them, they'll have a pink belly. That's how I know they can eat it. Also, how much bbs did you feed? Maybe you put too much in which is why they're still there. Right now I am feeding 4 spawns with just about 1/32 of a teaspoon of BS eggs. They can't eat a lot when they first start swimming.

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Believe it or not... I have 13 bettas (now more because of more babies ^.^) hahaha and almost ALL of them have different ways of preparing and stuff haha
I have tried... EVERYTHING with him!
Haha he's one of my most gentle bettas and would never hurt another fishy no matter what... Maybe that's the problem :/ iv had him in his own 10 gallon bucket, fed him 3 times a day with brine shrimp, black worms and then flakes so he doesn't get constipated :/
I tried putting some bubble wrap, putting someone else's bubble nest in there but nothing!
I dont think he'll ever spawn lol
I've heard some makes naturally won't mature to the reproduction stage. Even if you find a female he reacts to it'll be hard to get him to care for his nest once built. If he flares up for a boy he will flare for a girl
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That's a hot lookin white Betta isn't it?! I saw a black one the other day rare too not half as exclusive lookin tho
Thanks! And I've been looking for an all black halfmoon! Lol
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This is the kind of info I been looking for
I'm glad I started this thread then haha happy to help
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It depends. The fish will tell you (by making a nest or trying to court the female.)
If you are going to use a 10 gal tank, I would suggest the following:
Only fill with about 3-4 gals. water, with a heater, a piece of lettuce or floating plant and some places for the female to hide in (I use PVC fittings.) No bright light, gravel/substrate, filter, airstones or other fish. The key to using such a big tank is to not make it so far for the male to have to go to collect the eggs before the female "wakes up". You also want to make it easier for the fry to find food. ( The more water, the harder it is on the fry.)
The nice part about using such a big tank is that you shouldn't have to move the fry for quite a while. Once they have gotten used to feeding and have some size to them, I start to raise the water level no higher than half way until the labrynth organ has developed. (The lower the water level, the easier it is for the fry to get to the surface to breathe.) Once they are swimming normally, you can finish raising the water level.

Once again, your breeders need to be healthy. Try my earlier suggestion to either "bulk" him up or gauge his interest.
Keep us posted...
Woohoo! First sign of a bubble nest today and I havnt even moved him to his 10 gallon! XD
I don't know what sparked it because he's been in the same conditions for a while now. Once I find somewhere to put the residents of the 10 gallon in, off he goes ^.^
My female uma would have to be one of the most easiest fish iv ever bred.
She helps pick up the eggs and put them in the nest, she always goes straight to the nest without a fight, she's very gentle with boys but never with her female friends :/... She's just wonderful haha
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dancer doesnt always make bubble nests all the time.... and hes not made any since i moved him to his 5 gal but hes havin some trouble adjusting to the new tank... hes eating at least and venturing out from behind his filter when im at his tank and he will swim around some but most of the time he stays behind the filter....
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