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Narrator 02-28-2014 12:31 PM

So I decided to start a Saltwater Tank.
 
Hello all, Today I took the Plunge. After a few weeks of reading I wanted to start a FOWLR 26 gallon setup. I started a freshwater setup first, but I relocated my mollies and decided to go all in.

Here is the result so far. Any Input would be appreciated. My stocking plans are 2 clowns and a few cleaners.. those are to be decided. Let me know what you think.

Narrator 02-28-2014 12:35 PM

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Here is the tank. For some reason the app won't let me add it to my original post.

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bribo12 02-28-2014 12:51 PM

More live rock. You need at least a lb per gallon so 26 pounds. More is better

bird33 02-28-2014 01:00 PM

I'm in the process of starting a SW tank and I'm going all in. What did u read or watch to get your info??

Narrator 02-28-2014 01:01 PM

Thanks @Bribo12 I have some extra Dry rock I didn't add because of space. If I add the dry rock it will become live over time correct? I don't plan on stocking for at least a month or two so If its possible Ill add the rest of the dry and wait it out. What do you think?

Narrator 02-28-2014 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bird33 (Post 2854768)
I'm in the process of starting a SW tank and I'm going all in. What did u read or watch to get your info??

Most of my info was gathered from here in the forums. I have spoken with a local guy how has some experience. He was the one who took me to the LFS today to get some of my items. The main thing I wasn't sure about was the amount of Live/Dry rock he advised me to get. I got 30lbs of rock total but a mix of live and dry. He said the live would seed the dry over the course of the cycle period.

BigRedsReefs10 02-28-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Narrator (Post 2854769)
Thanks @Bribo12 I have some extra Dry rock I didn't add because of space. If I add the dry rock it will become live over time correct? I don't plan on stocking for at least a month or two so If its possible Ill add the rest of the dry and wait it out. What do you think?


Yes your dry will become live over time, I would add it now though to give your bb as much surface area as possible to colonize

Narrator 02-28-2014 01:42 PM

I will add more live rock. I also plan on throwing in a frozen shrimp tonight after work. Need to figure out a background too. might just go straight black.

Narrator 03-01-2014 03:59 AM

Question- With such a small tank what should I use for Filtration? I know to some extent the live rock will take care of some of that. But I keep hearing tell of Skimmers and Sumps, Not sure that I have room for either. I purchased a 700GPM powerhead and the tank already has a quiet-flow 50 on it.. Didn't plan on using that but it was what came with the tank. I have nothing against buying a larger filter but Space might be an issue for the time being. I keep hearing such conflicting info regarding filtration so I would love to hear from you guys.

My stock plans are to have maybe 2 clowns and some inverts for clean up.. maybe another fish, but I wanted to keep the load light for my first tank. so just the live rock, fish and verts for now.

Narrator 03-01-2014 11:36 AM

UPDATE: I put 1/2 TBSP of pure ammonia in the tank to get the cycle to started last night before bed. During this should I also be running the HOB filter that I have?

BigRedsReefs10 03-01-2014 11:38 AM

Skimmers aren't required on a tank this small but they are nice to have. If your looking for the easiest way(least amount of equipment) just go with LR and a hob filter to run some chemical media ( aqua clear 70's or 110's are best IMO ) and flow ( the power head). This and weekly wc's are all you really need

Narrator 03-01-2014 11:47 AM

Thanks for the Info @BigRedsReefs10, I though maybe my HOB filter might be a tad small so I will be upgrading it. Trying my best not to overwhelm myself but there is tons of great info here and the people are really knowledgeable, as well as helpful.

When you say "Run some Chemical Media" What are you referring to?

BigRedsReefs10 03-01-2014 12:09 PM

Chemical media is like carbon or phosphate reducer. And while your cycling you can run the filter ,but take out the media. This is the one time when you want ammonia and nitrite in your system

Narrator 03-01-2014 02:06 PM

Thanks so much. I did turn the filter on but I didn't remove the media.. but I will when I get home. My test kit was supposed to arrive today but it didnt.. Is it possible to overload with live rock? Say for instance I put 60-70 lbs in my 26 gallon, would I run into any issues..

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BigRedsReefs10 03-01-2014 02:17 PM

There is a point where it becomes to much. You want water to be able to flow through all of the LR and with 60-70 lbs would make that difficult I imagine. I typically go with about 1.3 lbs per gal of nice porus rock. For a 26 bf I would say shoot for 20-40 lbs, and if you can get more porus pieces than big solid rocks

Narrator 03-01-2014 07:09 PM

Thanks for all the help. Sadly my test kit did not arrive today.. so I really have no idea what's going on in there. Picking up more live rock tomorrow, instead of seeding the dry rock I already have. I can't wait until I get fish but I don't want to harm them either so I am happy to wait.

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Narrator 03-02-2014 07:22 PM

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I went and purchased more live rock today. So I have about 30 lbs so far. Let know what you guys think.


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Narrator 03-03-2014 09:23 PM

Wanted to see if someone could chime in, Is the current arrangement of the live rock OK?
I jostled them around a bit and nothing moved so I'm sure they wont fall. But water flow is my main concern. I'm sure you can see the placement of my powerhead. Will that be OK. Also will a 700GPH be enough or too much.

bribo12 03-03-2014 09:26 PM

It looks fine. I'd get another smaller powerhead for the other side so you can randomize the flow more. In my 20 gallon I have about 950-1000 gph of flow depending on my mp10 setting

Narrator 03-04-2014 05:36 PM

Hello all.. Today I noticed something on a few of my live rocks. I'm not sure what it is. To me it looks like some sort of clear Algae, it makes the rock look like it has a clear aura..lol. Just a little concerned. Anyone know what this might be.. it only comes off the rock maybe a few millimeters.

Narrator 03-04-2014 08:17 PM

UPDATE: Help, I was browsing the forums and noticed that The ammonia I used to start my cycle contained Ammonium Hydroxide and Surfactant. There was a thread I found that said the Surfactant was not good. Where should I go from here? Start over.. rinse everything.. Not sure....

nelix10 03-05-2014 01:40 AM

I would not be to concerned about the surfactant during the cycle! Maybe a WC might be a good idea

Narrator 03-10-2014 12:34 AM

Still waiting on my test kit. I plan on carrying a water sample to the pet store tomorrow to get an idea of the levels. Test kit should be here Wednesday. Anyone might have an idea of the clear looking algae I mentioned earlier in the thread That looks to be on my live rock?

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kdpuffer 03-10-2014 10:39 AM

I couple tips to offer, firstly is a skimmer is a valuable asset. There are hang on models that would be ideal here. Also when it comes to buying or replacing anything (ie lights) keep it in the back of your mind to get something that is good for reef. At some point you will want coral even just a mushroom, be better to have the stuff and not be concerned then to buy the coral and realize you have to upgrade lights or something.

Narrator 03-12-2014 05:09 PM

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So my test kit arrived today. Here are the results. Any feedback would be nice.

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kdpuffer 03-12-2014 06:56 PM

I suspect your cycle is nearing then end. Once you start seeing nitrates it's almost done. Just make sure to keep dosing ammonia and once it can go 24 hours and read 0 ammonia and 0 nitrites and only read nitrate then it's time for a water change and to add your first living thing.

Narrator 03-15-2014 06:20 PM

So I decided against the 26 gallon bow front in favor of a 40 gallon breeder. Here is the current situation. Please overlook my shoddy aquascape. The light is a Coralife HO 36 inch Aqualight. It came with (1) 10,000k 39 watt bulb and (1) actinic blue light 39 watt. Is this light ok?

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Narrator 03-15-2014 06:21 PM

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Sorry I forgot to post the picture.

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BigRedsReefs10 03-15-2014 09:06 PM

For a 40 I would want at least a 4 bulb unit a 6 would be better

Narrator 03-15-2014 10:03 PM

So this Unit would not be good for a FOWLR setup?

BigRedsReefs10 03-15-2014 10:08 PM

Oh ya for a fowlr that's fine sorry.

Narrator 03-16-2014 04:03 PM

LoL scared me there for a second. I don't plan on having coral for a while. How much pure ammonia should I be using to dose during my cycle. I'm sure I'll be starting over now that I moved everything from one tank to another. I used the same sand water and rocks but I had to add more sand and water. Still need another 10 lbs of rock as well.

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BigRedsReefs10 03-17-2014 02:20 PM

Dose it up to 5-6 ppm let it fall dose it back up and when ammonia and nitrite fall to 0 you should be good. Test it by dosing up to 1-2 ppm and see if it turns to nitrates in 24 hrs

Narrator 03-20-2014 12:40 AM

Thanks to everyone for the wonderful information you have shared so far. I have yet another question. Is a single 700 GPH Aqueon Powerhead enough for my 40g? I'm not sure if I have any dead spots or not. Would 2 smaller ones be better? What would be your recommendations?

BigRedsReefs10 03-20-2014 12:49 AM

I always prefer 2 smaller ones as opposed to 1 large one. Gives you a more random flow

Narrator 03-20-2014 01:03 AM

This is what I'm thinking as well. How about keeping the larger one and adding a smaller one on the opposite side. Do you think that is a viable option?

BigRedsReefs10 03-20-2014 01:04 AM

Oh yeah that would be fine

Narrator 03-20-2014 01:09 AM

Thanks so much for keeping my thread in your scope Bigredsreefs10. Wouldn't have gotten this far without you (even though I'm not too far).. I know this post is a little OT but I thinks its warranted.

BigRedsReefs10 03-20-2014 01:18 AM

Your welcome, happy to help :)

Narrator 03-20-2014 06:45 PM

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Here are the current results from today's test. Do I need to do a water change?

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BigRedsReefs10 03-20-2014 06:57 PM

Nope, your cycle is moving along as it should. You won't do a wc until both ammo and trite fall to 0, and then you'll probably want to do a few large ones to get the nitrates down to a safe level too

Narrator 03-22-2014 10:19 AM

Hey all I'm at Myrtle Beach and while walking on the beach I found some black porous rock. Could I use this in my tank and eventually seed it as live rock. Obviously it would need to be cleaned well. I'll post a pic as soon as I can.

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Narrator 03-23-2014 12:53 AM

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Ok so here is a rough pic of the type of stuff I found. The black rock on top is what I have the most of.. The other stuff you can see is just little tidbits I gathered along the way. I really liked the black rock so I grabbed tons from the surf. So can I use it and will it become Live?

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Narrator 03-24-2014 11:42 PM

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So I checked my levels today. What do you guys thing. Looks like ammonia is down but shouldn't I be seeing more nitrates by now. Also here is a shot of my tank. What do you guys think?

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