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Does anyone know more about this product than what the packaging says? The only thing for dosing is recommendation of using it every four weeks to maintain a healthy environment. But does not mention anything for how often it can be used when using as an actual treatment and not a precaution.
 Also, directly on the package says 1 g/ 100 gallons. But then a sticker on the bottom says 1 g/ 120 gallons?

Last thing, I did not see any visible worms coming out of the fish until after I dosed the tank, is it a good thing that I am now seeing them/does that mean it is working?
 

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Does anyone know more about this product than what the packaging says? The only thing for dosing is recommendation of using it every four weeks to maintain a healthy environment. But does not mention anything for how often it can be used when using as an actual treatment and not a precaution.
 Also, directly on the package says 1 g/ 100 gallons. But then a sticker on the bottom says 1 g/ 120 gallons?

Last thing, I did not see any visible worms coming out of the fish until after I dosed the tank, is it a good thing that I am now seeing them/does that mean it is working?
I haven't used this particular product but according to the main ingredient, Flubendazole, I can offer you this:
The sticker refers to U.S. Gallons and since the product is a UK product, the difference I presume is the imperial gallon in the UK ( 153. 72 ounces) vs the US gallon ( 128 ounces. ) If you are using the US gallon, use the dose on the sticker. (y)
The chemical is not a "one and done treatment" med and the recommended full treatment course is 21 - 28 days. A repeat dose is usually given at 7 day intervals, Within that time you will be killing the adult parasites with the follow up treatments killing off any parasites that hatched from eggs after the initial treatment or matured before the next dose administered. While Flubendazole does kill some parasite eggs ( mainly gill fluke eggs), my information does not say that it kills all parasite eggs so the need for retreatments is there. According to the manufacturer's instructions, the med can be re-dosed every 7 days up to 4 times and a water change is recommended prior to administering the medication. (Cloverleaf Industries Ltd.)
The fact that you are seeing worms after the treatment is a good sign of the medication working. If you can collect the worms and confirm that they are dead, that'll be more proof of it working. (y)

As for how often to treat the tank, After the initial full course treatment, I would only re-medicate if you add new fish that have not been dewormed in a separate treatment/hospital tank before being placed in the main aquarium. There are some reports of parasites becoming resistant to this medicine ( Flubendazole) so overuse in an aquarium should be avoided.

Hope this helps. (y)
 
Wow that’s probably the best response I’ve had to any of my post. I really appreciate all of the information. Trying to do my own “research” on the amazing know all Google was just giving me way to many different answers lol. And now that you mention the difference in the US and UK gallons, I should’ve known that but didn’t have the thought at the time so that makes perfect sense. Thank you again
 
Wow that’s probably the best response I’ve had to any of my post. I really appreciate all of the information. Trying to do my own “research” on the amazing know all Google was just giving me way to many different answers lol. And now that you mention the difference in the US and UK gallons, I should’ve known that but didn’t have the thought at the time so that makes perfect sense. Thank you again
When you are at it long enough, you catch a lot of things between the lines or not even mentioned. ;)
One of my biggest pet peeves about doing research online is because the internet only answers the question you asked. It doesn't tell you what you should be asking. That's why I use books still. It gives you a lot of information in one place so you know WHAT ELSE to ask. (y) In this case, I looked up Flubendazole in my book for dosing and when I compared it the directions on your package, I was concerned about possibly overdosing considering the package says once a month so I went online ( instead of emailing or calling the company) concerning overdosing which led me to a number of Discus sites regarding overdosing deworming meds which led me one post about your product so I searched a more direct result of overdosing this product which led me to an AI generated quote " DO NOT OVERDOSE" which should have been enough to say that the information I had written to that point was potentially wrong but then I searched the actual company's website regarding your product which gave me the result I linked in your post. In the end, the information I got from my book was what the company website had said. I didn't see that info on the back of your package which is yet another example of why it is so difficult to properly medicate a tank of fish correctly or more appropriately. :facepalm: :mad: This is why you have to be so careful. It's always better to ask before doing instead of doing then asking if it was the right thing to do.
 
I'm going a bit off topic here, but I've recently been doing a little research into search engines and AI.

Search engines, and in particular Google, are becoming less search engines and more AI tools. I don't think it will be long before the search engine use will be completely gone, and all you will get is the AI response when you enter a search.

AI isn't what most people think it is. Its not like in the science fiction movies, it has no intelligence or intuition. I don't personally think it ever will do. All it is, is a search engine that summerises what it finds into something that's easier to read. If the source is wrong, then the summery is wrong. If it makes a wrong assumption about the source, then the summary is wrong even if the source is correct.

As an example. If you type into Google "is water frozen at -3c?" the AI response will say no. The reason for this is that when it does a search the majority of sources will say that water freezes at 0c. The AI doesn't have the intuition to know that water is frozen at 0c and lower. It doesn't understand the difference between the words frozen and freezes.

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You really need the ability to cross reference everything AI tells you because if it gets one thing wrong, you can't trust any of it. And once sites like Google take away the search function to rely 100% on the AI response, people will just lose the ability to think for themselves and look things up and learn.
 
It's the sad reality of the loss of books and book knowledge and dependence on machinery for answers. My fish books may be old with the wrong scientific names now but the behaviors and breeding methods and compatibilities still hold true. You will only get them from me by taking them out of my cold dead hands. o_O:lol::lol:
 
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