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Nate77

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So , I have been into aquariums most of my life , mostly freshwater. I have had everything from 10 gallon - 265 gallon planted not planted , when I moved a few years back I sold my 265. A couple years after I moved got an sr80 and played with saltwater for a little. Had a massive bad algea outbreak no one could solve or get under control. And broke the tank down a little over 3 years ago.
I Divorced the ex in 2024.

I have been thinking about setting tank up again. I started visiting some of my haunts a few weeks ago , only to see that they aren't very active. A quick search landed me here.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. :flowers:
Unfortunately, algae is a common issue in saltwater tanks. This is why you see a lot of algae eating fish in the hobby. Tangs, certain blennies, certain Angelfish, certain Butterflyfish, Rabbitfish, crabs, shrimps, snails ( to name a few ;) ) all eat algae. While it's much harder to control, it's much easier to get the right species in the tank to control it. (y) The ocean isn't a sterile looking environment and neither should a marine tank be. ( That's the secret to a successful marine tank. ;) 🤫 )

You'll find that today's freshwater fish are not really like the fish of the old days. ( I've been keeping fish since the 1960s so I can compare. ;) ) and your best friend for a successful tank is a good quarantine routine to prevent the spread and introduction of diseases. There are new viruses, parasites and resistant strains of bacteria today that we didn't have to deal with back then. So it's still a wonderful hobby, just a little more to it these days. (y) So get your elbows wet and ask any questions you may have before going down a rough track. We're all here to help. (y)(y)
 
I get that algea is common , but this was bubble ,caulerpa, ect. I did add the fish that ate supposed to eat it. Had 5 professional maintenance company's in. 3 wouldn't even take a stab at it another gave up after 3 months. Last one thought we were getting back on track tank was clearing then went hey wire again.

I am very familiar with QT! , I want to say around 2012 was my last freshwater tank!

Can you elaborate on today's fish aren't like the old days please ? Are you talking captive vs wild caught? Or are you just talking about the disease and parasites ect?
 
I get that algea is common , but this was bubble ,caulerpa, ect. I did add the fish that ate supposed to eat it. Had 5 professional maintenance company's in. 3 wouldn't even take a stab at it another gave up after 3 months. Last one thought we were getting back on track tank was clearing then went hey wire again.

I am very familiar with QT! , I want to say around 2012 was my last freshwater tank!

Can you elaborate on today's fish aren't like the old days please ? Are you talking captive vs wild caught? Or are you just talking about the disease and parasites ect?
Here's the thing about algae, algae is the end product of light and nutrients. If you don't have them both, you don't get incontrollable algae. Caulerpa and bubble macro algae are shallow water plants that need bright white light in order to do well. Had you changed your lighting, you may have been able to keep it better controlled. Actinic blue lights might have been the answer as well as reduced hours of pure white light or red lights. If you look at how light penetrates water, you'll see that white and red bands penetrate to about 30 feet ( 10 meters) then there is the blue light. Caulerpa is found in under 30 ft. This helps explain light penetration: "Within the first 10 m, water absorbs more than 50 percent of the visible light energy. Even in clear tropical water only about 1 percent of visible light—mostly in the blue range—penetrates to 100 m. Light attenuation is the gradual decrease in light intensity as it travels through matter. " So this is just some FYI in case you want to go back to saltwater. You just need to be careful not to add any of those macro algaes on any rock or corals you might add. (y)

As for today's fish, if you had fish back in 2012, you should know about the iridovirus that causes Dwarf Gourami disease, Angelfish AIDS and Cichlid disease. The particular iridovirus that causes Dwraf Gourami disease has been found to effect over 30 species of non anabantid species so it's a nasty disease that to date, has no cure. Sadly, you don't know what fish has the disease unless it's active. A study done on Asian farms in I believe Singapore back in the 1990s(?), showed that 30% of the Dwarf Gouramis and their color variants on these farms had the virus. Today, that could be as high as 50% of all Dwarf Gourami color variants. There is some debate on which types of Gouramis carry the virus but practically speaking, stay away from Gouramis. :( The explosion in popularity of Balloon type fish ( a genetic defect) has not made the fish a healthier fish. That disfigurement of the body has caused the internal workings of Balloon fish can lead to digestive issues, reproductive issues and other metabolic issues that can cause conditions like Dropsy, constipation. etc. Fish TB is common on certain farmed rainbowfish species. Being that many of the fish species on the market are farmed, their overall health is questionable once they leave the farm's medicated waters. This is why you no longer medicate a new arrival but instead, observe the fish in QT to see if any medicating is even necessary. Lastly, there are new parasites in the hobby. " Super ick", Epistylis, Camallanus worms ( common in Guppies) and flukes have become more common due the increase in live plants in aquariums. Live plants are a good transporter for snail eggs, hydra and worms so even plants need to be dipped or QT'd to prevent spread in the main tank.
Now, with all of that said, it's not that every fish or every plant or snail will bring "nasties" into your tank but they all have the potential to. This is why quarantining is so important these days. (y) Back in the day, the worst thing I can remember wild caught fish coming in with was internal worms. That was a simple fix compared to today's complexities of finding good meds. :facepalm: So that's what I was talking about. (y)
 
Wow that is a detailed reply!!!!

Haha yea I tried all that with lighting , even completely blacking the tank out. Like totally covered.

I am quite familiar with those diseases !!
Never really messed with gouramis or guppies, mostly SA cichlids, pbass , knifes , loaches and the like.

Not sure what direction im going yet but leaning towards a 180 tanganyika, but not sure yet.
 
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