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dhiatt41056

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This is the 2nd posting I think I posted this in the wrong place but owell. I got home from work and saw one of my MALE Pseudotropheus greshakei's caring eggs. I am almost 99% positive it is a male and 100% positive it is caring eggs. Has anyone heard of anything like this?
 
I just got home from work and I saw one of my MALE Pseudotropheus greshakei's caring eggs in his mouth. If anyone has heard of anything like this please reply.
That makes more sense. I am not familar with this exact species, but some male cichlids help raise the young.
 
I did a quick google and everything i could find out about them said that the females carry the eggs. But anything is possible though.
 
Yeah..the females are mouth brooders. This might be your answer to wether or not that fish is male or female. :lol:

If it is a male, Id like to hear what the Cichlid crowd has to say...very interesting.
 
I wish i could put a picture of it up. But it has every characteristic of a male because in this species the females arent as brilliantly colored. I have a female to and she looks like the females are suppose to look. But I could be wrong.
 
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Red-dorsal Afra, Dogtooth Cichlid [picture]
Cynotilapia afra
SYN: Chromis afra
PD: The body is elongated and the forehead is steep. Males are usually dark turquoise blue with six to seven navy blue bands. The first starts just behind the gill cover, and the last ends near the end of the dorsal fin. The dorsal fin is elongated, running from the peak of the forehead, back to the base of the caudal fin. The dorsal fin is light turquoise or yellow depending on the fish. The caudal fin also varies from yellow to turquoise. The pelvic and anal fins range from turquoise to navy blue in color, while the pectoral fins are transparent. Three to four egg spots are located on the rear part of the anal fin. Females are light blue to slate gray in color, and usually have no stripes. The fins are also more dully colored, and not egg spots are present on the anal fin.
SIZE: Males to 4.7" (12 cm), females to 4" (10 cm)
SS: Zebra Mbuna (Pseudotropheus zebra), Red-Dorsal Cobalt Zebra ( P. greshakei)
HAB: Eastern Africa; Lake Malawi. The Dogtooth Cichlid is found near Likoma Island swimming in large schools in open water (unusual for a Mbuna).
S: bottom, middle
TANK: 40" (100 cm) or 45-55 gallons (170-209 L) is required for adult fish. The tank should be arranged with rocky structures. Caves and other retreats are very important for this fish as it tends to be aggressive. Tough-leafed, well-rooted plants that tolerate hard water can be used. Use a coral sand substrate as an alkaline buffer.
WATER: pH 7.5-9 (8), 10-25 dH (18), 73-81°F (23-27°C)
SB: A territorial cichlid that tends to be especially pugnacious among its own species. The combination of the Dogtooth Cichlid with other, dissimilar species helps reduce aggressiveness. Keep one male with at least three females. During the spawning season, this cichlid becomes even more aggressive.
SC: Synodontis, Lake Tanganyika Rainbows, Lake Tanganyika Cichlids, mbunas.
FOOD: Live; bloodworms, mosquito larvae, crustaceans, snails, Tubifex; pellets; tablets; flakes. In nature, Cynotilapia are primarily plankton feeders.
SEX: Males are striped with six to seven black stripes, And have 3-4 egg spots on the anal fin. Female are not striped, and are usually lighter in color than males.
B: Use water with a pH from 8-8.5, a water hardness from 10-15 dH, and a temperature from 77-82°F (25-28°C). The Dogtooth Cichlid makes exceptions to normal mbuna bonding patterns. The males are agamous, and do not form bonds. Keep one male with at least three females, as the male may be overly aggressive in his mating attempts. A small amount of eggs are mouthbrooded by the female who participates in a matriarchal care. Remove the male at this point, as it is easier to rear the young without him. The eggs are incubated in the female's mouth for a period of 20-21 days. Start feeding with Artemia and powdered foods.
BP: 6. Breeding is not difficult in water with the right conditions. The male becomes highly aggressive, so retreats for females are needed.
R: Fish are mature at 6-8 months.
DC: 4. A hardy, but highly aggressive mbuna.
 
It is possible that the male could be a female but I am not sure. The fish that is caring the eggs has the black stripes going down its side like the male. But when compared to the male that is in the tank with it it doesnt have the brilliant blue coloring. So I dont know I am just confused and will leave it at that.
 
I currently have what I thought was a male Aulonocara sp., and matured into a lovely female Copadichromis borleyi. With those fish the females are supposed to be grey/silver with red fins, but mine is most definitely black/midnight blue and had me going 'round and 'round with the ID, very complicated by my peek into her mouth to see 20 pairs of eyes looking at me!

There are hormones being given to juvie fish to give them coloration, since often females do not sell well, so I say anything is possible. If it is holding eggs it is a female, and may be a different species than you think, if the coloration does not add up.

These folks helped me ID mine: cichlid-forum.com - many hard-core experts there!
 
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