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Old 09-29-2014, 11:43 AM   #11
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The mandarin was in the qt for 3 weeks (21 days). I think that's plenty for it to starve off.
i misread the 3 weeks thought it was 3 days
yes 21 days is long enough to starve
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Old 09-29-2014, 12:06 PM   #12
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Am I the only one who wonders about the store keeping the specific gravity at 1.014?

That seems awfully low to maintain the tanks at.
For hypo-salinity treatment it's fine for a few weeks, but maintaining the salinity that low would begin to lead to organ damage.

Does the lfs you shop at keep it that low all the time or were they trying to deal with parasites?

If they keep it that low all the time that calls into question their knowledge and ability, if they were keeping it that low to treat the tanks, you should have not purchased anything at that time.
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Am I the only one who wonders about the store keeping the specific gravity at 1.014?

That seems awfully low to maintain the tanks at.
For hypo-salinity treatment it's fine for a few weeks, but maintaining the salinity that low would begin to lead to organ damage.

Does the lfs you shop at keep it that low all the time or were they trying to deal with parasites?

If they keep it that low all the time that calls into question their knowledge and ability, if they were keeping it that low to treat the tanks, you should have not purchased anything at that time.
alot of lfs do this so that the fish seem prestine (parasite free) and will be purchased faster. Since they only plan on haveing the fish for 1-3 weeks the fish live. HOWEVER, that being said its still cruel
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I'm not sure that short term hypo is "cruel" and it is way easier on a fish than copper. I know some stores use hypo going with the "it's only here a while" concept, but I wonder how many people go home and hurt their fish by raising the salinity to normal too quickly (which is what would be done under normal acclimation timelines).

For future attempts, I would either just put it in the DT or QT in regular salinity and make it the only fish. I'd add pods after a couple days if it did not eat frozen and even a few live rocks and some chaeto.


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Yea they said they keep all there fish at that salinity to prevent parasites. But like you said it is almost impossible to acclimate it within a reasonable timescale as you should only change salinity max .02 a day if raising it. From what i have heard!
Yea well i think next time i will qt it for a couple of weeks alone. Bringing salinity up and of course feeding it on frozen and pods!
I think him adapting to a new home and so much competiton straight away was too much for him!
I feel sad but at the same time anxious to learn from my mistakes!


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As a ex LFS owner, I can comment that the large majority of mandarins don't make it long. Some do. Especially ones that arrive fat. They eat thousands of pods, so they either have to dependably have a non-contended food source that others, like wrasses can't wipe out. Or the tank needs to produce a huge number of pods.


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So its ideal to try and find a bigger one?
They are all similar at the place i go to! So it seems i will need to try and do the fattening myself!
I feel i need to try again and have him in a seperate tank which i can fill with pods and constantly fatten him up!


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Dragonetts and mandarins

If you buy a skinny one, you are reducing your chances of success many fold. He wasn't skinny because he was eating well at the LFS. They are very ick resistant, but very prone to starve even in larger tanks like my 300. My wrasses outcompete any dragonette I might place in there.

My son on the other hand has had a fat one for years, and that's because he will accept prepared foods and has little direct competition.


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I would suggest starting a culture of pods before you try again. Make sure its accepting prepared foods before you buy it and load lots of pods into the tank regularly for it to eat.

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My dt is rammed with pods. Literally the glass is crawling! But obviously the store keeps there salinity really low so putting it straight in my dt is risky!
How long can i acclimate him from 0.014 to 0.026!?


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