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Old 11-03-2004, 11:20 AM   #1
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HOB refugium

the more i read, a refugium sounds like a good idea. can anyone suggest a product to buy or a link to make a small HOB refugium for a 29 gallon. correct me if i am wrong, i can put some sand and macro algae in it and it will provide a home for pods and the macro algae will eat up phosphates and nitrates so algae doesnt grow as readily in the main tank. i do not have a sump system. i would like some thing that hangs on the back like a skimmer.

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did you end up buying one? could you put your heaters in this? i saw that someone made thiers out of an aquaclear 300. i assume this is a filter/biowheel that they gutted

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yea i used an AC500, but the flow is a little strong, if you use the 300 you can interchange the intakes from the smaller pumps to decrease the flow. however in a 29 i dont think that the AC500 would be too much flow, and the size is nice- plenty of room to conceal the heater and to have a sand bed and macro.

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after looking at pictures it looks like the AC500 is the same design as a HOB refugium. it brings water in and lets it overflow into a holding area where your sand and macros are. it then just overflows back into the tank. is there and reason you couldnt put your powerhead on the inside of a HOB refugium to suck water in? that way you wouldnt have a powerehead dangling in your tank. could you put both heaters in your refugium? one in the input side baffle and one in the ouput baffle?

anymore thoughts would be appreciated.
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how would a very small refugium benifit a small tank????
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my theory is that i can add water volume to my tank. you would then have a 34 gallon instead of a 29. you would also have a little more live sand and rock and the macro algae you put in there will help control algae in your main tank. it also gives a safe place to grow pods that will then "leak" back into your tank and supply a food source for fish and some inverts. thses are just my thoughts. i might be wrong but it sounds reasonable

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I'm having second thoughts about the HOB I showed you. It's only 5 gallons of water. I've seen recommendatations that fuges should be about 10% of the volume of the main tank. I've got a 75g main.

Anybody got any thoughts on whether I should do this one anyway? I have absolutely no room beneath or beside my tank for one. An HOB is about my only option.
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I think the one issue you may run into with a HOB fuge bigger than 5 gallons is the weight. A 5 Gallon tank is going to push 50lbs and all that weight will be hanging on the outside of the tank. I'm not sure that a 75G tank can take more than that hanging from the top of the tank. Just my $0.02.
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The weight issue makes a lot of sense. Heck, just the enjoyment of more life in my system may be enuf.
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