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Old 06-13-2009, 03:34 PM   #91
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In my opinion, the "bacteria in a bottle" things are a waste of money. I wouldn't put it in. But again... unless you get the rock in there during the cycle, you're going to cycle again when you put the rock in at a later date.
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:11 PM   #92
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I ordered 15 lbs of live fiji rock from the seller on ebay offering it for $2.59 per lb. plus shipping. He should ship on monday, and I will likely have it tuesday as hes in my state.

In the meantime, how does this sound? I will wait to add the bacteria in a bottle until I see an ammonia spike. After that, I will add in the bacteria to see what it does to the ammonia. If the ammonia drops, and nitrites go up then it works. (Unless my sand IS actually alive and was the reason).

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Old 06-13-2009, 04:53 PM   #93
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Look for yard sales and find local reef or fish clubs in your area, these are all sources of used equipment that can be had for cheap.I was at a frag swap last weekend and there was a equipment acution and people walked away from it with some really good deals.think about what kind of filtration you want to do. a ps is not really needed if you are doing fish only.
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:29 PM   #94
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Ive got all my equipment now, minus a protein skimmer. I dont plan to have any coral for quite some time. Right now, I plan to have fish and live rock. Also some inverts such as: Crabs and shrimp.
EDIT: I noticed something odd in the tank. On top of the water is this stringy white stuff. It is fibrous and pulls together when pulled from the tank. Any idea what this crap is?
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:50 AM   #95
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Its been a few days now since I dropped the raw fish into the tank. Still no ammonia? Im getting a solid zero on the test. Thinking that the live sand may have instantly cycled, I tested for nitrates and those are a solid zero. This leads me to believe that this raw fish isnt rotting. How long should this take? I have the water at 80F and a powerhead in there. Seems after two days, there would be some ammonia, no? I havent been able to find any pure ammonia either. :-( Even the cheapest in the stores has surfactants. (Bad stuff for fish).

There IS that same strange white slimy stringy stuff that floats on the surface of the water. Any ideas? Could this be some sort of algea? Ive been using DI water to mix the salt and for top off.

Is is likely that my water testing stuff is bad?

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Old 06-15-2009, 04:07 AM   #96
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What type of fish piece did you use instead of shrimp? If the fish has allot of fat then that white stringy stuff is fat coming off your fish.
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I used a chunk of raw cod fillet...Fat eh? Is that bad? It seems to keep collecting where the power head pushes the water over to the other side...

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I learned the hardway..Publix,or any "machine" water doesn't go thru the DI process.Big trouble down the road.Get RO/DI water from LFS.But don't drink it.I had all kinds of algae problems, switched H2o and tank is clear.
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The water I bought was DI water in a jug on the shelf. It tested at 0 too on my TDS meter so it should be fine.

I talked to the seller about the sand I bought and he said this strange junk is bio gel used to keep the bacteria in the sand alive. He said that is why I should have washed the sand. :-/

Skimming it off the surface ought to help, but alot of it has clumped together and sank. I am waiting on his reply as to whether or not it is harmful if left in the tank.

EDIT: The seller assured me that it is harmless and will break down in a few days. I have 15 lbs of fiji live rock coming tomorrow to add to the tank. Today I am going to some hardware stores to look for pure ammonia. (Well, ammonia without surfactants and detergents). Still no ammonia...This cod must be some kind of super cod. Resistant to decay! Arg!

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Just use a frozen shrimp. The tank will regulate the amount of ammonia coming off the shrimp. No over dose. That is why I recommend it over the bottled ammonia. Just add the shrimp..no need to measure anything.....
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