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Old 08-31-2013, 07:26 PM   #1
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Hi guys, I have had my marine fish only tank set up about 2 months now and have started to really get into it all! So before I start with my questions I'll tell you a bit about the things I have done so far. To begin with I added 2 clowns to my tank whilst I allowed the bacteria in the water to develop. After 3 weeks I took a sample down to my local LFS to check that I was ready to begin adding some new fish and after getting the all clear, I added a coral beauty and a royal gramma. I have been doing a 10% water change weekly and plan to do this for a few months before moving on to a 20% every fortnight. Anyway I then decided to add 2 cleaner shrimp so when I done my weekly water change I asked my LFS to raise my salt levels so I could add some invertebrate to the tank which I then done. Everything seems to be going just fine apart from a considerate amount of green algae growth in my tank which is becoming a real pain! I gave my filters contents a swill the other day whilst doing my water change to ensure it wasn't also clogged with rubbish! To try and counteract the algae I have just brought some timers for my lights, and have set them to have the white light only on between 8am and 10am for feeding time! I have then put blue and white light on between 4pm and 9pm for general lighting! Then I have put the blue light on between 9pm and 10pm so I can sit and admire my tank for an hour haha! This totals 8 hours a day which I have been told is a decent amount of time! Also in the day there is no direct sunlight onto the tank but there is some light in the room! I'm planning on getting a green mandarin tomorrow and hopefully a blue tang within a month and hopefully a juvenile majestic angel and a juvenile bluefaced angel in a couple of months! (last fish to add)!

Equipment list - 185L tank, tmc v2 powerbox 200 external filter, not sure what the lights are but there's one white and one blue in like glass tubes, UV steraliser, a bog-standard heater! I'm waiting on a artificial reef insert and also planning on getting a protein skimmer in the near future when I have the money! I'll upload a picture when I have my phone back (I dropped it in the swimming pool abroad )

Has anyone got any comments on what I am doing or have any tips for me? This is my first marine tank and I am quite proud of my progress so far but am more than willing to take any tips and constructive criticism on board! I have been researching as much as I can and spent hours speaking to fellow aquarists down my LFS!

Many Thanks,

Ryan!
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Old 08-31-2013, 07:42 PM   #2
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Hi Ryan .
If everything seams to be doing well I would suggest take your time when adding any livestock .
I will ask though ,
When I started my 75gal it was highly recommended to do a fish less cycle .
A skimmer suitable for a bigger tank keeping in mind the skimmer has nothing to take out of the water until you have live stock to produce waste .
I have read a lot in the last year about saltwater and reefs and think there is never too much , research as much as possible .
It only makes it easier to understand as you are going ,
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:29 PM   #3
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Is that litres? So about 45g? If so, your future additions are not suitable for such a small tank - check out live aquaria for recommended tank sizes for your intended live stock, its also a good reference for compatibility and feeding. I would recommend buying your own test kits, so you can check your own water. Show us some pics of the set up!
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:33 PM   #4
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Oh and if you plan a mandarin make sure he is eating frozen foods and ask the LFS to feed him - if he doesn't eat then don't buy him. They are notoriously fussy eaters and most only eat live copepods (if you have plenty of live rock you may have a population already) if your tank is new they can eat your copepod population in weeks. I would recommend waiting until your tank matures, in a year or so...
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Old 09-01-2013, 06:54 AM   #5
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It is approximately 185 litres yes! My LFS have all the kits and check the water for free so to save money whenever I go to buy my water for the change I take a sample in with me, it just seems easier and cheaper for the time being. I have been reading and have gathered that your fish will only grow to a size they feel comfortable within the tank, therefore they will not outgrow my tank. Even if they do my LFS will take them back and give me half credit of their value. I have ordered an artificial reef insert and am now just waiting for the arrival of this, that is why my tank is looking so bare! It should be here before long and I will then post new pictures! Pictures show my tank, my filter, UV steraliser! My lights are on timers so they are not on at time of pictures.
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:53 AM   #6
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That's not true that fish only grow to the size of the tank, they can stop growing in smaller tanks but that means their growth is stunted. I would be cautious of the tangs in a small tank only because they are so prone to disease when stressed. I am not trying to come down on you, it's your tank after all, but these fish are particularly prone to marine ich and when one fish gets it they all do. Can wipe out a tank and loads of money wasted. In other news you tank looks good, if it was me I would want more rock though
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Yeah I have heard that about tangs but for the time being I think I'm going to take my chances with them! I will be very cautious and keep a close eye on them though! Any tell tale signs of ich? As soon as see anything they will be straight down my LFS for quarantining! Will stunting there growth cause any major issues, I would love a bigger tank but I'm limited due to space! I agree, I totally want a lot more features in the tank such as rock but my finances are limited and I have got n artificial reef in transit so that will liven it up a bit When I have that insert in I will then look into adding a regal and a brown tang and eventually when I have a bit of extra money and have allowed time for the tangs to settle, add a juvenile majestic and a juvenile blueface! The reason I want to get a brown tang is that my tank is suffering from algae growth and I'm sick to death of scrapping it all off and have heard the brown tangs will do the job for me!

Thanks for all your help, I love learning new things!

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The tangs will not like that size of tank and I would recommend you only get what can live in your tank permanently. Add some more rock and your tank will be perfect, by the way when a fish has ich it is covered in white dots and may scratch against objects in the tank. Hope this helps! and by the way a stunted fish will die very prematurely and will not be happy while its alive.
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Adding live rock to your tank is not really for decoration - it is your main source of filtration. It will also help look after your fish by providing them with necessary hiding places. If you can I would definitely invest in some more, it will be so beneficial to your tank. I understand you want the fish that you do, but its good for you to know that they are not going to be happy or healthy. You can certainly spend a lot of money to keep a successful salt tank and its so sad to loose them good luck and try and keep 'em fat and healthy.
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Yeah I have heard that about tangs but for the time being I think I'm going to take my chances with them! I will be very cautious and keep a close eye on them though! Any tell tale signs of ich? As soon as see anything they will be straight down my LFS for quarantining! Will stunting there growth cause any major issues, I would love a bigger tank but I'm limited due to space! I agree, I totally want a lot more features in the tank such as rock but my finances are limited and I have got n artificial reef in transit so that will liven it up a bit When I have that insert in I will then look into adding a regal and a brown tang and eventually when I have a bit of extra money and have allowed time for the tangs to settle, add a juvenile majestic and a juvenile blueface! The reason I want to get a brown tang is that my tank is suffering from algae growth and I'm sick to death of scrapping it all off and have heard the brown tangs will do the job for me!

Thanks for all your help, I love learning new things!

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A yellow eyed kole tang is smaller tang and amazing at cleaning algae
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