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Old 11-05-2010, 10:50 AM   #81
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that's correct. drilling a tank takes the siphon issue right out of the equation.
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if your tank is acrylic, you don't even need a glass drilling bit. you can go to home depot and get a bit for it
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:57 AM   #83
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oooh i see now..there is not siphon involved so i wouldnt ever run any risk of losing siphon..its going to basically just drain into the sump with no suction..wish i would have seen this before ordering my cpr overflow box that i wont be using anymore lol i am going to order the 700gph drilled kit from glass holes instead and try selling my overflow box that i have not received by mail yet...does drilled make more noise or can it be quiet?
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a drilled tank, set up correctly, can be completely quiet.
btw, just return the cpr overflow box.

the only thing i would keep in mind is the return line back siphoning (this can happen with both a HOB overflow, and a drilled tank). when the return pump shuts off, the return line being filled will reverse, and start siphoning back into the sump. you'll need to do something to break siphon as soon as possible when this happens.
what i do is drill a hole in the return just below the water line. when the power goes out, it only drains a tiny bit and then sucks air through this hole.
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:19 PM   #85
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Thanks or I can just use a check valve as well right..but I think the hole would be easier and just as affative.. What you mean by set up correctly..would I have to modify the kit in anyway to achieve quietness..
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check valves aren't 100% successful. after a short time, algae and a slime coat, along with some of the countless zillions of creatures that grow/reproduce in these closed systems can, and in many cases, will block the seal in a check valve.

if any overflow is making noise, you can do a few things to tweak them, one would be adjusting the amount of flow through it, and another would be to put a piece of airline tubing partially down the drain pipe to stop the gurgling sound(the gurgling is a mixture of air and water. if the air is being supplied via the airline, in many cases this makes it completely silent).
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Ok thanks I will probably be buying my kit today then..
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:42 PM   #88
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can some one tell me if ASM skimmer is better than a octopus? i am looking into the ASMG1 or G2 or octopus 110..what would be better choice?
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or the SRO 1000INT....i have around $200-300 for a skimmer...
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or the SRO 1000INT....i have around $200-300 for a skimmer...
that's an awesome skimmer.
octopus skimmers are built, and perform way better than ASM skimmers. not counting the superior construction, just look at the efficiency of the pumps each use.
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