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Old 01-12-2012, 09:18 PM   #11
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Ok I added a damsel in as my ammonia source bc everything ive read said that was the best way to do it. The fish died within a day. And when he died, we checked everything. Ammonia was about 1. Nitrite was 0. And nitrate was about 3 or 4. Then we let it sit with no fish or anything for about 4 or 5 hours. Our parameters are now ammonia .25, nitrite 0, nitrate 10. Why dont we have any nitrites when our ammonia is going down and our nitrates are going up. And is this a good sign?
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:44 PM   #12
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I used it in my freshwater tank when I first set it up. I put 8 tetras in a whole bottle of StartSmart in a 29g.two weeks later I put 3 corys and a albino bristlenose pleco in and another full bottle of start smart in. on week three my tank is cycled as far as I can tell and I only lost 1 cory but that was from injury during transport I think....all fish alive and when I test my water last weekend it was on its last leg of the cycling process. right before I put the second bottle in I had a small bacteria bloom but it was gone 2 days after adding the bottle.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:35 AM   #13
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But we have a saltwater would that be different? And by the way we also have a 14 gallon biocube and we are doing the same thing. The only thing is that we put the start smart in it about 5 days ago and we have 2 damsals and they are both still living. The only thing is when we cked it tonight the ammonia was about 0-0.1, nitrite was 0, nitrate was 0. What are we doing wrong because we dont even have any nitrates?
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Start Smart is bacteria. It's a bottle of super-concentrated bacteria. They're activated by water and function primarily for nitrogen fixation.
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what do you mean nitrogen fixation
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Sorry I'm used to saying nitrogen fixation. The correct term is nitrification. It occurs when you have ammonium and certain microorganisms present in a given environment. These microorganisms utilize ammonia as an energy source and it's then converted into Nitrites and then Nitrates. When you use additives like Stress Zyme, Start Smart, etc. you're artificially creating this environment in your tank, which helps reduce the greater risk of high ammonia levels. Generally speaking, nitrogen fixation is the opposite process.
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does that mean a temporary fix or does it actually help to cycle
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:34 AM   #18
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So what is going on with our tanks then?
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does that mean a temporary fix or does it actually help to cycle
Cycling, from what I understand, means establishing the perfect balance of ammonia production and conversion. If I'm not mistaken ammonia and nitrites should be relatively low and accumulating nitrates are removed by regular water changes. Whenever you change your water you're theoretically removing some of these nitrifying bacteria and that's why you'd want to add "maintenance doses" of additives like Start Smart. So much of it is circumstantial and I have little experience with most tropical fish and all salt water fish.
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So what is going on with our tanks then?
It sounds to me like that's the balance you want. Low ammonia and nitrites are a good thing. When you get to nitrates, I think that's the stopping point. The microorganisms have done their job and that's why you do your water changes to remove the excess. I think nitrates are the preferred state as ammonia is a quick killer.
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