After 10 years in freshwater, I figured I'd finally dive into salt... (Way different ballgame apparently...)So, about a month ago, I decided with space being limited, I'd start with a 10 gallon nano (yes, I'm aware the smaller, the harder it is... I figured I have the time and dedication for now, and I'm also setting up my 55 soon).
I put in almost 20 lbs. of live rock and about 5 lbs. of base rock on top of fine white reef sand using (what to me appeared to be ok at the time) Petco's salt mix with dechlorinized tap... Was this mistake #1? (Haven't bought RO/DI unit yet...)
The live rock was from an established tank and my ammonia spiked within a few days, along with a bit of nitrites. I ran out of nitrate tests so I haven't tested at all, and have been low on $$ cuz of the holidays but am planning to buy more this week... A friend told me that with that much live rock, my tank should cycle very quickly...
So two weeks in, I test only ammonia and nitrites, and both are 0. Again, friend suggests hardy corals would be ok to add... I tell him I've read online that you really shouldn't add coral for a while but he says "can't believe everything you read online" so that in a sense being true, I thought I'd give it a shot since he was giving me free frags...
OK... here comes the problem... so I put in two zoa frags and two green striped mushrooms... Zoas are doing well the first few days but most close up a few days in, and mushrooms aren't quite opening all the way... I was suggested using a very small amount of H2O phyto cubes to help coral growth, so I put in 1/4 cube twice that first week... Within another week (last week) I get a massive diatom bloom. I'm thinking ok... this is normal... A few days later, brown hair algae... again, I hear normal for a new tank. Then this last weekend, cyano (I think)! WTF?
After the brown algae bloom, I figured since I was testing no ammonia, I'd give starting with my CUC a shot to battle the algae problem and bought 2 blue legged hermits and 2 astreas... Acclimated by floating for an hour, then slowly pouring in tank water (VERY little at a time) for about 3 hours... (ran out of tubing, couldn't do a drip...) Little guys crawled around a bit... but next morning... dead.
Assuming I have a phosphate/excess nutrient problem, I read up and according to most people online, PWCs are the way to go... So I do two 20% PWCs within 3 days of each other. This was this last week. The algae is now starting to get on the two zoas. My friend would rather I not place them back in his tank as he doesn't want the algae transferring to his... So after the PWCs, I decided to try a CUC again... Two more blue leggeds and two more astraes... Same acclimation. Next morning, dead. (I'm ready to kill someone...)
So, I go to the LFS on Saturday and again, I hear the whole "you can't trust information online" lecture from him. Holy Christ. He informs me that water changes are actually going to make it worse, not better. He says that since I'm using tap, the more PWCs I do, the more nutrients I'm introducing INTO the tank, instead of taking it OUT... But that's not what I read online...?? Am I reading wrong? In the past two days, I've recently lowered my lighting from 12 hours a day to 8... I'll start using RO/DI, and have stopped feeding, as the LFS guy said it's not necessary. Those are the three majors I've heard causes algae blooms...
Question is, what's with the contradiction with the whole water change thing? Do I do it? Do I not? I'm confused. Info online says PWC with help export phosphate and extra nutrients, but the LFS guy says I'm adding more by doing it. And the algae... No dead animals, no waste... so the nutrients are coming from where? Is it the water? If so, water changes or no? More info... I have a Aquatech 170 GPH powerhead and a 100GPH filter running for only water flow, no carbon... Can excess nutrients get trapped in the filter? And a heater set to 78. I have two 15 watt lights, a 50/50 and one actinic...
I've killed 8 creatures so far, but the corals are still alive. Not opening all the way, but alive nonetheless... I have no source for copper as it's a brand new tank... So really, this is a multi part question... What's causing the algae bloom AND the invert deaths? Is it the water? Is the tank most likely just not finished cycling? I've had plenty of freshwater tanks... up to 200+ gallons and I'm having more trouble with this 10 gallon saltie...
Sorry for the fifty page essay. I just thought I'd give all the info at once... Which I'm sure I'm missing a lot of anyway.
I put in almost 20 lbs. of live rock and about 5 lbs. of base rock on top of fine white reef sand using (what to me appeared to be ok at the time) Petco's salt mix with dechlorinized tap... Was this mistake #1? (Haven't bought RO/DI unit yet...)
The live rock was from an established tank and my ammonia spiked within a few days, along with a bit of nitrites. I ran out of nitrate tests so I haven't tested at all, and have been low on $$ cuz of the holidays but am planning to buy more this week... A friend told me that with that much live rock, my tank should cycle very quickly...
So two weeks in, I test only ammonia and nitrites, and both are 0. Again, friend suggests hardy corals would be ok to add... I tell him I've read online that you really shouldn't add coral for a while but he says "can't believe everything you read online" so that in a sense being true, I thought I'd give it a shot since he was giving me free frags...
OK... here comes the problem... so I put in two zoa frags and two green striped mushrooms... Zoas are doing well the first few days but most close up a few days in, and mushrooms aren't quite opening all the way... I was suggested using a very small amount of H2O phyto cubes to help coral growth, so I put in 1/4 cube twice that first week... Within another week (last week) I get a massive diatom bloom. I'm thinking ok... this is normal... A few days later, brown hair algae... again, I hear normal for a new tank. Then this last weekend, cyano (I think)! WTF?
After the brown algae bloom, I figured since I was testing no ammonia, I'd give starting with my CUC a shot to battle the algae problem and bought 2 blue legged hermits and 2 astreas... Acclimated by floating for an hour, then slowly pouring in tank water (VERY little at a time) for about 3 hours... (ran out of tubing, couldn't do a drip...) Little guys crawled around a bit... but next morning... dead.
Assuming I have a phosphate/excess nutrient problem, I read up and according to most people online, PWCs are the way to go... So I do two 20% PWCs within 3 days of each other. This was this last week. The algae is now starting to get on the two zoas. My friend would rather I not place them back in his tank as he doesn't want the algae transferring to his... So after the PWCs, I decided to try a CUC again... Two more blue leggeds and two more astraes... Same acclimation. Next morning, dead. (I'm ready to kill someone...)
So, I go to the LFS on Saturday and again, I hear the whole "you can't trust information online" lecture from him. Holy Christ. He informs me that water changes are actually going to make it worse, not better. He says that since I'm using tap, the more PWCs I do, the more nutrients I'm introducing INTO the tank, instead of taking it OUT... But that's not what I read online...?? Am I reading wrong? In the past two days, I've recently lowered my lighting from 12 hours a day to 8... I'll start using RO/DI, and have stopped feeding, as the LFS guy said it's not necessary. Those are the three majors I've heard causes algae blooms...
Question is, what's with the contradiction with the whole water change thing? Do I do it? Do I not? I'm confused. Info online says PWC with help export phosphate and extra nutrients, but the LFS guy says I'm adding more by doing it. And the algae... No dead animals, no waste... so the nutrients are coming from where? Is it the water? If so, water changes or no? More info... I have a Aquatech 170 GPH powerhead and a 100GPH filter running for only water flow, no carbon... Can excess nutrients get trapped in the filter? And a heater set to 78. I have two 15 watt lights, a 50/50 and one actinic...
I've killed 8 creatures so far, but the corals are still alive. Not opening all the way, but alive nonetheless... I have no source for copper as it's a brand new tank... So really, this is a multi part question... What's causing the algae bloom AND the invert deaths? Is it the water? Is the tank most likely just not finished cycling? I've had plenty of freshwater tanks... up to 200+ gallons and I'm having more trouble with this 10 gallon saltie...
Sorry for the fifty page essay. I just thought I'd give all the info at once... Which I'm sure I'm missing a lot of anyway.