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Old 05-20-2008, 07:27 PM   #21
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I hear lots of offers and see little progress. It seems to me that Neilan is holding all you good people up!

FWIW I have that one DE 250 over my 29 gallon. I really don't notice the ends being too dark or much heat build up. I think your tank is 6" longer, not sure if that is enough to make a difference or not.

This weekend seems like a good weekend to get started
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:06 PM   #22
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I'm working this saturday, unfortunately.

I think I do want to go with a canopy, in which case I'll probably retro into that. In my mind, the 2x175 is a better solution than a 1x250, but cost wise it might be better to go with 1x250 also. Haven't looked that closely yet. I'll prob go retro T5HO for the actinic supplementation (even though I realize it's not 100% necessary, I like the look). I've read pros and cons on DE vs. SE, and initially reacted by wanting to go SE due to not having to be concerned about a UV screen (kids and all). Thoughts?

Yes Sparky, mine is 6" longer than a 29g. Just for reference the dimensions are 36x16x21, but the bow pushes out several inches from the 16" width in the center, to 20" I believe.
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:11 PM   #23
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Just about any glass acts as a uv screen. The se lamps have an envelope that serves as a screen so you can get away without the glass cover on the fixture. The DE provide a smaller profile and allow for more ventilation room in the canopy.

You need a glass screen even for the tank as I understand it anyway.
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:07 PM   #24
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I don't think so, I thought the preferred was open top.

I'll start looking at retro kits. Other than hellolights, where else should I investigate?

I looked at hellolights, and for their base level MH retro, the difference in price between a 175W and a 250W is $4... am I missing something? If this is true, should I be looking at 2x250? or too much heat?


I also went and investigated some BR at marcorocks. 50 pounds is $129. At F&S, 45 pounds of fiji standard LR is $90. where's the savings in BR?
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You need a glass screen even for the tank as I understand it anyway.
Not saying that you need a lid on the tank, but you want something to screen out some of the uv.
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Check this thread out for your lights:
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I have 50Lbs of base I'll sell ya for $60. I'm not sure what's up with marcorocks, I got a great deal when he first started up.
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lol I wish some of you guys lived near me when I was starting up... I wouldn't have spent so much MOOLAH on stuff i didn't need lol.

congrats on deciding to do a SW tank.. i swear I dont know what I was doing before I had this tank, its like a totally new freaky obsession and I love it.
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Thanks for the link Scott.

I'll keep looking around for LR, but if I can get 45lbs from F&S for $90 it's worth the extra few bucks IMO. That's assuming I go for the fiji standard stuff, though.

Sparky, I was under the impression that the SE bulbs include the UV "screen" in the glass that encompasses the bulb. Is that not correct?
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You are right about the SE bulbs.

I don't think it would be a good idea to go with 2x250 on your tank. I have enough light on a 72 with 2x175 to house anything I want. The cost of your T5 retro shipped is more then you can get it from BRK. I think a 36" dual kit is $108. I was going to order mine from Hellolights as well but BRK had it for the same price and I didn't have to pay the shipping to get it.

Look on Ebay for your lights MH that is. I ordered mine from ebay a dual 175 and paid $160 for it. Mine is a magnetic ballast rather then electric so there is a hum to it. Mine is a PFO.
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BRK it is then. They don't do MH setups too? If they have those good prices on T5 perhaps they do on MH too?

Are there advantages to DE that I'd be missing out on? Are the no-name brands on ebay ok? I don't see much other than bulbs.
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