eco23 said:It's funny how exciting / stressful / heartbreaking / joyful an empty fish tank can be, lol. Trust me, I know
Geez, you're telling me. I'm back to purple again, because of my flub up, and now I'm waiting for blue again.
eco23 said:It's funny how exciting / stressful / heartbreaking / joyful an empty fish tank can be, lol. Trust me, I know
royta said:Well, the pH was dropping, so I had to put the bags of crushed coral back in. What a bummer. I went from completely cycled to crushed coral. At least I didn't convince myself that all was well and bought fish.
The crushed coral won't harm the plants will it?
Well, the pH was dropping, so I had to put the bags of crushed coral back in. What a bummer. I went from completely cycled to crushed coral. At least I didn't convince myself that all was well and bought fish.
The crushed coral won't harm the plants will it?
Pigeonfood said:all the CC is gonna do is keep ur pH high so you wont have a pH crash, it wont hurt the plants at all...and actually might help u finish ur cycle.
royta said:When I let the rocks and glass dry up, it must have only killed off the nitrite eating bacteria. Strange I know, but the ammo continued to read 0 after 24 hours.
Rocks and plants are in final resting spots, so no dumb mistakes on my part anymore.
eco23 said:Where's your no2 hanging at? How quickly and how far is it dropping?
royta said:I don't think it is dropping. It's hard to tell because the API color chart is kind of lousy. I've never seen a 0.25 or 0.50 according to the chart, and 2.0 and 5.0 are almost identical. On my tank I've seen dark purple working it's way to lighter purple and then just blue.
Today it was a lighter purple. The results today were different than I've experienced in the past. Whenever pH would crash, ammo wouldn't go 0 and nitrite looked like it was almost 0. But for the previous few days before pH started dropping fast, ammo would go solid 0 and nitrite 2.0 at best. Well today ammo still went solid 0 and nitrite 2.0 even though pH had dropped to 6.4. The only difference would be the plants, or maybe the rocks.
Anyway, I'm back with the CC and in the morning before work, I'll make sure pH has come back up.
The pH starts out at 7.6, but it crashes after about four to five days after a PWC. I'm not sure if it will continue crashing after the tank is cycled and I have fish. I hope not.eco23 said:Man...you must have some LOW alkalinity water.
royta said:The pH starts out at 7.6, but it crashes after about four to five days after a PWC. I'm not sure if it will continue crashing after the tank is cycled and I have fish. I hope not.
I could probably give the water company a call. We live at 5100 feet in Northern Utah right below Snowbasin and the water comes from the springs on the mountain (Strawberry Peak) above us from our elevation on up to about 9000 feet. There's not a whole lot of time that the water runs across or through the rocks so I would imagine it is low in alkalinity.
That shouldn't be a problem once the cycle is complete, should it?
eco23 said:Shouldn't. Cycles can cause crazy things with pH. Have I already gotten you to leave a glass of tap water sitting out and test it after 24 hours? It'll give you a good idea of the actual pH compared to what the cycle is doing to it.
I guess you did just now. I set out a glass so I can test tonight and tomorrow morning.
My pH did not improve over night so I changed out to fresh CC
Pigeonfood said:Sorry I haven't kept up to date with my cycle, but my tank has been officially been cycled for about 5 days now WOOHOO!!! I have been talkin to eco23 directly to try so i could try and get my cycle done a little quicker since my patience is horrible. My cycle took just about 2months to complete, but maybe have been done quicker if it wasnt due to the fact i under rated the pH and rarely tested cos i was so fixated on the ammo and no2 tests. Since my ammo was converting to no2 in 24hrs regularly and couple of days later it would have a pH crash due to the fact my tank was super close to been done which brought my pH down super low like between 6-5pH, did about a 70-80% pwc to get the buffers back into the water and to increase the pH, the crash wud set me back a couple of days. Then about 2 weeks ago my tank had its 2nd pH crash when i was on vacation for 3 days...not a nice thing to come home to!! But the 2nd pH crash wud kill some of my no2 bacteria but everything else was great ammo was covertin regularly. After learning my lesson the 2nd time round I went out and bought a bag of CC, but after consulting with the Dr. (eco23) lol i found out that my no2 bacteria was not in fact dead but "sleeping" maybe due tot eh 2nd pH crash i honestly dont know, still a mystery. So last Thursday night, my no2 decided to wake up and now my tank is officially done. My tank would not be where it is now if it wasnt for my man eco23, every event that my tank was involved in that was bad, he came up with a solution to fix it, before i did my cycle i knew absolutely zero about cycling and aquarium keeping. But the last 2 months I have learned so much from this bloke. Thanks eco and thanks whoever contributes to this thread.
FYI: anyone who decides to cycle a tank i wud automaticaly get a bag of crushed coral, it will eliminate the chance of a pH crash.
Since Friday, i have added all my fish i wanted in my 36g bf. reason i can add all these fish all at once is because over the course of cycling I have built a ungodly amount of bacteria which will eliminate all the ammo the fish produce even if its a alot of fish too.
Anyways the fish i added:
8 x Glowfish
2 x Blue Longfin Danios
6 x Harlequin Rasboras
6 x Peppered Corys (Friggin love these guys)
1 x Bolivian Ram
3 x Otos ( adding hopefully friday)
Congrats! Good show and I am proud of ya
Pigeonfood said:thx deckape...i hope ur tank is getting better after eco gave u that filter media.
Thanks Liam (Pigeonfood). You're a perfect example of how a fishless cycle can always be successful with patience, perseverance, commitment and sometimes a bit of problem solving. Believe me when I say how happy I am you have some beautiful fish swimming around in the perfect little home you've built for them.
You make a great point about the CC. It is always an available tool and I highly recommend it to anyone with low alkalinity to their water. In fact, I intend on revising the guide listing it as a good optional item to ensure a fishless cycle is fast and efficient.
Congratulations, and as much of a pain it the butt it was for you at times...I'm glad we went through it. I've made a good friend in the process