The esha 2000 could substitute for salt if you can get it today. So you could treat with that and then onto furan 2 on Thursday.
What meds did he try?
Also unfortunately I would try this on a few with best chance or keep them separate.
Neon tetra disease?
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The esha 2000 could substitute for salt if you can get it today. So you could treat with that and then onto furan 2 on Thursday.
What meds did he try?
Also unfortunately I would try this on a few with best chance or keep them separate.
He tried furan 2 and is it methylene blue? (Sorry if I haven't got that right )
I'm just going to put them into a large 40 litre tote and medicate them all.
I'll try to get a hold of the 2000 today.
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
I'm just going to put them into a large 40 litre tote and medicate them all.
I'll try to get a hold of the 2000 today.
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
Matt68005
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IF we are talking about NTD....there is no cure.
IF we are talking about F. Columnaris, unfortunately you would require a stronger antibiotic, which im not sure they will have where you live. (UK?, AUS?)
IF we are talking about F. Columnaris, unfortunately you would require a stronger antibiotic, which im not sure they will have where you live. (UK?, AUS?)
Hi, I'm not sure what they have which is making it difficult.
I'm in the UK.
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
This was the ingredient list I could find for esha 2000:
eSHa 2000-(1) 6.3mg Ethacridine
lactate, (2) 3.2mg Copper ++, (3) 0.26mg Methyl orange, (4) 1mg Proflavin.
Bit of a cocktail of antibacterials and parasites but I don't think I have heard bad reviews on it. Stronger but also more harsh than the MB. It's worth a try. I'd still try that straight away and then onto furan 2 when it gets there.
Just a note that this product isn't available in Australia that I have seen.
Any that are internally effected I'd put down. Ime you can't save them as small fish and they will just infect the others that have a better chance. Some thoughts.
eSHa 2000-(1) 6.3mg Ethacridine
lactate, (2) 3.2mg Copper ++, (3) 0.26mg Methyl orange, (4) 1mg Proflavin.
Bit of a cocktail of antibacterials and parasites but I don't think I have heard bad reviews on it. Stronger but also more harsh than the MB. It's worth a try. I'd still try that straight away and then onto furan 2 when it gets there.
Just a note that this product isn't available in Australia that I have seen.
Any that are internally effected I'd put down. Ime you can't save them as small fish and they will just infect the others that have a better chance. Some thoughts.
Can get my hands on esha today so I'm going to go ahead with that first.
I have 5 out off 17 that look good
rest no color, still eating but 4 look unwell, empty stomach and clamped fins no visible patches on them. Might go ahead and euthanize, this is so difficult really wanted these little guy's but if I can save some I will.
Too think I had 39.
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
I have 5 out off 17 that look good
rest no color, still eating but 4 look unwell, empty stomach and clamped fins no visible patches on them. Might go ahead and euthanize, this is so difficult really wanted these little guy's but if I can save some I will. Too think I had 39.
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
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Went to lfs and they only had esha exit! Really unhappy, phoned and asked them before I went for the 2000. It's really not my week, so I picked up salt going to do salt baths I know it won't cure them but I have to try something.
There's definitely no patches on them just clamped fins and some not eating.
Who said keeping fish was relaxing!
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
There's definitely no patches on them just clamped fins and some not eating.
Who said keeping fish was relaxing!
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
Well I didn't euthanize any, all eating well, fed cyclops last night. I also ordered some medicated food which hopefully will be with me today. I thought I might as well try this incase of internal parasites too.
Salt dips only, they didn't appreciate it!
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
Salt dips only, they didn't appreciate it!
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
Fingers crossed for them. Came out of the salt baths ok?
They didn't enjoy it, but no losses.
My friend came down and gave them a methylene blue dip as well, just waiting on furan 2.
They actually seem a bit brighter. Thanks Lesley
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
Update
No more losses at the moment, everyone is eating and scooting about the tank.
Total loss of 17, keeping my fingers crossed I don't have anymore.
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
No more losses at the moment, everyone is eating and scooting about the tank.
Total loss of 17, keeping my fingers crossed I don't have anymore.
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
Geez, that's a few. Fingers crossed that all goes well with the rest.
Matt68005
Aquarium Advice Addict
Neon tetra disease, brown lesion http://badmanstropicalfish.com/fish_palace/ntd_notcatfish.jpg
Columnaris, white lesions
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/CyprinidontiformFishPIX/Livebearers/Poeciliids/Img2007-06-24-085556.JPG
Fish TB, flat bellied and bent http://badmanstropicalfish.com/fish_palace/tuberculosis_noodles.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/1zxtg5u.jpg
Columnaris can be cured, the other two cannot. Wuld need to bleach everything.
Columnaris, white lesions
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/CyprinidontiformFishPIX/Livebearers/Poeciliids/Img2007-06-24-085556.JPG
Fish TB, flat bellied and bent http://badmanstropicalfish.com/fish_palace/tuberculosis_noodles.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/1zxtg5u.jpg
Columnaris can be cured, the other two cannot. Wuld need to bleach everything.
Returned my fish back to my tank after furan 2, got up this morning to 2 wrestling shrimp fighting over a dead fish not happy, wondering if it's been bad stock? Don't think coulmnaris as I've had these guy's 4wks and wondered if they would've all been wiped out by now? Not sure haven't had to deal with anything like this before.
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
Are the fish all looking good now? Was wondering if this one may not have adjusted to going back into the main tank for some reason.
They seem better, all eating. The one that died looked emaciated and had no color? Just going to keep an eye on thing's. I'm wondering if it's been internal parasites?
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
55 gallon elephant nose tank.
30 gallon borara merah and brigittae, shrimp and snails
How many did you have with fin rot and chunks missing out of dorsal fin? Was wondering if you had a list of infection signs for ones that died?
Eg 3 x fin rot
2 x curved spine, not eating.
Eg 3 x fin rot
2 x curved spine, not eating.
Both diseases?? ?
Any changes to muscle structure?
Or pooping ok? Looking at if parasites in muscles or intestines.
Any changes to muscle structure?
Or pooping ok? Looking at if parasites in muscles or intestines.
