Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Identification
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 02-22-2005, 11:52 AM   #11
steve-s
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phyl
Quote:
a bivalve has two shells. ie.. mussels, clams, oysters, scallops and the like. A snail is a univalve.
It is hard to tell from this picture, but this guy does have 2 shells. The picture was taken head on through the front glass (which is where he was attached at the time) and you're looking at the half of his shell that was pressed up against the glass. I couldn't get a good look at his foot or I would have snapped a picture from that angle as well.
Not doubting you and I am sorry for not replying earlier, I did not have access to Photoshop at the time. The reason it looks like a Stomatella or abalone is there appears to be distictive holes to the left side of the pic.

Is that a result of the pic or are the holes actually there?

Cheers
Steve
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	p2171595.jpg
Views:	52
Size:	79.0 KB
ID:	1031  
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2005, 04:21 PM   #12
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,111
Ya know... I don't know! LOL! There appear to be those "holes" in a couple of other places on that shell as well (via that picture), but I wasn't looking for holes on him when I saw him. I can't tell if that is something creative that the camera did or if there's really a hole there. Right now he's attached to a rock at the right hand side of my tank, facing the left hand side so the only picture I can get of him is from almost 4' away (I hope that made sense!). It's a pretty good picture of him opened up though . Unfortunately I think that picture is still in the camera. Hmm. I'll post it tonight if I have a chance.
__________________

__________________
Phyllis

Join the NJ Reef Club Today! Saving the world's reefs one living room at a time!
MACNA XXI Atlantic City, NJ September 25-27, 2009
Phyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2005, 11:54 PM   #13
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,111
Here's the pic from the other end of the tank. Pretty hard to get a good look at him, but it was the best I could get.

__________________
Phyllis

Join the NJ Reef Club Today! Saving the world's reefs one living room at a time!
MACNA XXI Atlantic City, NJ September 25-27, 2009
Phyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2005, 05:58 PM   #14
steve-s
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Your right, not the greatest image. Have a look <<here>> and see if that helps any.

Cheers
Steve
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2005, 02:09 AM   #15
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 754
I can't say for sure what type of bivalve you've got there...but I'm pretty sure that he'll move around until he finds a spot that he likes, then he'll never move again.

I also think you need to feed live phytoplankton in order to keep him alive long term.
__________________
40 Gal Hex, 10 Gal Sump, CPR overflow with Mag 7 return, Maxxima 35 RO/DI, 10K MH pendant, 2 x 15W actinic, 1 yellow tail damsel, 1 high fin goby, 40lbs LR.com rock, 1 red head goby, 1 algae blenny, Leather, blastomussa, sun, and hammer corals, green polyps, carpet anemone, 2 sexy shrimp...and more LR critters than you could imagine in your worst nightmares.... Mantis in 5 gal
Brad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2005, 02:28 AM   #16
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 754
You know...Eunicid worms get as bad a reputation as mantis shrimps. One guy pulls a seven footer out of his scaffold plumbing and suddenly EVERY eunicid worm is "bad and must be removed". That's oversimplification/generalization.

I think you removed and killed a beneficial scavenger. That's my opinion, but it is based on the personal experience of keeping many, many of that exact species in my reef tank without incident.

I don't yet know how large that particular species (red/brown - with the white neck ring) gets. My largest is not quite 2 feet, but doesn't seem to be getting any bigger in nearly a year.

The largest one that have is a different species again. (photo in my gallery). This one has recently moved and now lives directly under a large leather coral. It has shown no interest in feeding on the coral, and is much more interested in macroalgae.

Like many critters, if they get hungry enough, I would bet that they attempt to eat anything they can. Make sure there is something there for them to eat and they don't go out of their way to eat things you would prefer to be left alone.

Now..if you just don't like them because they make you go "Eeeewww", it's your garden to decorate as you please. But if you want a balanced ecosystem, you need to have a healthy balance of the critters that aren't necessarily pretty.

I think we need to be careful answering the "good/bad" question. Of course, there is almost never a clear cut answer to that question. I think it should always be answered with "I have personal experience with that critter and it behaves as follows..."[/quote]
__________________
40 Gal Hex, 10 Gal Sump, CPR overflow with Mag 7 return, Maxxima 35 RO/DI, 10K MH pendant, 2 x 15W actinic, 1 yellow tail damsel, 1 high fin goby, 40lbs LR.com rock, 1 red head goby, 1 algae blenny, Leather, blastomussa, sun, and hammer corals, green polyps, carpet anemone, 2 sexy shrimp...and more LR critters than you could imagine in your worst nightmares.... Mantis in 5 gal
Brad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2005, 09:34 AM   #17
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,111
Thanks Brad. Yeah, I would have kept him alive (I have one red crab and 2 bristle worms in my QT who are waiting for my fuge setup) but unbeknownst to me, my crab decided to make lunch of him! One of my bristles took a huge bite out of a shroom and the crab ate a colony of yellow star polyps. This worm was irritating the coral over him that I'd just spent 50$ on. We knew about the worm 3mo ago and it was ok with me that he hang out in there until he decide to poke at my coral. I'm certainly of the mindset to leave them all in there, until proven guilty. Once proven guilty though I don't give them a second chance. Into the fuge they'll go!

I have to say though... it DID make me go Eeeewwwwwwwwwww! Big time!

Thanks for the alternate perpsective. That's what makes this place so great!
__________________
Phyllis

Join the NJ Reef Club Today! Saving the world's reefs one living room at a time!
MACNA XXI Atlantic City, NJ September 25-27, 2009
Phyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2005, 10:07 AM   #18
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Fluff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 11,423
Well, I believe in live and let live but, for me there isn't enough good info on these worms to give me a warm fuzzy feeling about them. What little info I could find on them says they are scavengers as well as predators. I have a couple thousand dollars in my reef tank and to me, it's not worth the risk for one worm. And my opinion is not based on one mans story. But, yes, it is only my opinion. Either way, it's irrelevant. The worm was gone at the time of this post. I'm sure there are more than one species of this worm and some are probably harmless. Here is the link to the worm incident Brad is referring to if you interested.

http://www.oregonreef.com/sub_worm.htm
__________________

__________________
~Cindy
Fluff is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
pics

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help Identifying Hitchhikers? Pics Salukis97 Saltwater & Reef - Identification 8 01-05-2010 10:20 PM
Noticed hitchhikers(good thing) need ID - pics kansei Saltwater & Reef - Identification 10 02-15-2007 05:00 PM
So many hitchhikers,Heres another one I just found. reefbound Saltwater & Reef - Identification 3 12-18-2005 10:35 AM
my first LR.com order, hitchhikers, pics copi Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 10 02-22-2005 04:47 PM
Some liverocks.com hitchhikers (2 pics) Maximo Saltwater Reef Aquaria 4 01-02-2005 01:53 AM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.