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Old 02-16-2005, 01:27 PM   #11
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An old joke:

A bachelor of science asks: what is that doing, and why is it necessary, and how does it it do it?

A bachelor of engineering asks: how does that work, can I build one and make it better?

And a bachelor of arts asks:

scroll down.......

get ready to stifle a groan.....

don't take this personally, its just a joke.......

A bachelor of arts asks " want fries with that?"

Before you flame, I have a BA! But it reveals some truth to the world. Follow your dreams in education and learn something you love. You owe it to yourself. But also learn something that others will pay you for, you owe that to the utility companies! If your passion isn't likely to pay, then double major with something that you can support yourself with while trying to make your dreams come true. You are more likely to realize your dreams if you can support yourself in the meanwhile.

Remember, In the USA average salary for a high school graduate is in the 20 thousand range. Average salary for a college degree is close to forty grand. Education is the key to economic success in the USA. Yes, college is expensive, but add up the higher income over your lifetime and you come out way ahead with a degree.
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Thanks guys,

My mom went crazy after I told her what it would cost. I had no clue how much education cost in U.S.. But over here an average college (or high school even) education would cost about 2000$ per year. This is only a fraction of what it costs in U.S., but this may put into perspective that 9000$ (18000$) for two years is allot!!!
The reason that school is that 'cheap' is because of heavy funding through the state. But because the institute that I want to go study at isn't regogsnised by the state (figures, I have to choose the one school that isn't recognised , but what can I do, they aren't teaching the course anywhere else)
I am not qualified to receive study funds from the state (this is calculated on the basis of your parents income). Their income is just above the maximum level for study funds. :|
Now, I'm willing to go work, but thing is, I can't make that much money. Not allowed (well I am, but hear me out). If I make that much money, my mom loses 'child support'? which is about 10% of her income (in numbers around 300$). Anyway, if I want to go to work, then I'll have to pay this money back to her of my monthly wages, which would only be a logical system, since this is money for her to support me living at home. But this would make me have to work even longer, since I'm looking at a pay of 1300$ per month max for a job without education required.
I'm willing to do this all, but I just have to make my mom see this. Lucky I'm not alone on this one, I currently started visiting a psychotherapist who has already helped me allot and has suggested to talk with me and my mom to support me in my choice. Which will be necesairry. Because the things that I suggest will not be good enough, since I am 'inexperienced and have no idea what I'm talking about'. That's the whole point, me wanting this education really bad and even being prepared to make all the money independently. But she doesn't see that happen, simply because she is fearfull that I will not succeed. Understandable, but for this to work she'll have to have some confidence in me.

And TomK2, indeed, this may not be the best job to become very rich or anything, but this is now the thing that I am chasing and I really want, so not yet thinking about the payout. I am currently in the process of contacting people who work in the bussiness and making appointments with them, to see what the possibilities are, and this way I'll also have a good idea of how much this job will pay. But since I am really motivated and thinking I'm going the be the best of the best, finding a well payed job won't be a problem
Anyway, I'm still looking into things as getting paid etc.

Thanks,

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Old 02-16-2005, 05:18 PM   #13
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Billsgate - It is your dream, your life, your choice. If you are an adult, you decide what is best for you. Sure it would be easier if you mom is behind you, but it is not necessary for you to achieve your dreams.
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Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders since you are already contacting people in the business. Wish I had done that earlier in my schooling instead of spending all my time in the studio and editing suites. If you have internships over there, I'd highly suggest trying to get one. And when you make it big, would you hire me...
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Hehe, I do have a big head Tom, but my head was working to hard when I wrote my previous messages. Yes, I'll hire you once I become famous

I have come to the conclusion that is impossible for me to make that amount of money to go and study this. I have also talked to a technician who works at one of the leading studios in Belgium, and he told me that it was an okey education (at SAE), but way overprized and that it was too short. You get everything in 2 intensive years, but all the background info about the bussiness is only briefly discussed in this program.
I will continue what I am studying now, and lay the emphasis on sound myself. Maybe I needed this 'crisis' to overview my options. And if I don't go to SAE, which I can't because of the cost, then the other option is doing the study that I am doing now.
And I also needed this to see what motivation I can get to continue this study. I am perfectly able to specialise myself on audio-level and to let this be seen in my personal works for school. I have now found a motivation to make a movie (with sound in a leading role). I'm thinking that this may very well lead to an original story and an interesting movie. Besides, in the second year of my current study, we will be receiving more lectures and practical classes on audio.
This is the only manageable way to achieve what I want, without going into serious conflict with my parents and myself even. And I'm glad I went through this thing, so now I have a clear view of what I want to achieve and how I will do it.
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I just noticed something significant. Bet no one else did....

You're sharing your fist name with us now. Noticed after the first post on this thread.

Took me a while to do that too, but this place and the family environment kinda make you feel real good about being a part of it.

Again, good luck man! Err, Thomas.
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Well noticed austinsdad
And indeed, if this weren't such a friendly place, I wouldn't do it.
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Ha ha...I knew his name long ago from a similiar faux paus I just saw this thread (Thomas) this will explain why you haven't heard from me (as I'm sure you were expecting to).

Career decisions revolving around the educational aspect of them are frought with a lot of obstacles. When I first enrolled in College, it was to pursue an MBA. This was partly due to pressure from family and school admins, who were convinced that because I was good in mathematics, I should pursue the business courses. They mentioned some of the things that TomK says (but much harsher).

After the first year, I was bored to tears. 3 more years of History, English, blah, blah, blah...no way! Out the door I went and pursued a totally different career (the one that I wanted) and raised a family. Happiness for the past 22 years.

Moral - Follow your head. It usually makes the best decisions!
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K, Thomas, I'll hold you to that job when you're famous. You should still stay in touch with the pros in the industry. That's a great thing you've started.
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good move.

as someone who has tried for YEARS to get into the movie industry, I can tell you its pretty much next to impossible. (oh sure, if your amazingly good and you are in the right place at the right time with the right people you may, possibly get lucky.....)

anyways, follow your heart. I am sure you will land on your feet.
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