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Old 07-08-2011, 05:42 PM   #41
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Actually the sand really isn't gonna do all that much, if you are trying to seed a new tank to speed up cycling, you'd want either the filter media itself or truly live rock, both coming from a well established tank. Yes the sand does hold some bb but not anywhere near the amount that the filter media and/or live rock hold. Plus when you dig deep into a well establiahed sand bed, you run the risk of releasing harmful chems into the water....all in all I'd look at getting ahold of some decent filter media to seed it with
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The skimmer is going to be pulling impurities that would convert to ammonia and so on, and so forth. You're prolonging the cycle. And as for filter media, that isn't going to sustain a SW tank, nor will it cycle. The filter media will turn into a nitrate factory.

What you want to cycle the tank is some good live rock. I'd do a 60/50 combo, if it's a 45 gallon tank, 25lbs live rock, 15lbs base rock.
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Old 07-08-2011, 09:22 PM   #43
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I'm sorry but how do you figure filter media wouldn't sustain a sw tank?? That what a majority of people use to seed their tanks to avoid a cycle.
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We have 30 pounds of live rock in there now and the other 40 pounds is base because we had to break it down before so it's all dead. We also have live sand.

I know of many people that use HOB filters on saltwater tanks we don't have the time or money to make a sump right now. Yes I have heard they are nitrate factories and we will watch that. It is a 100g tank. Not a 45. We will be getting more live rock this week and hopefully powerheads.
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Your off to a great start. A sump helps but I don't have one on my tank so it isn't nessesary.
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Great start sumps and/or refugiums are not 100% necessary to run a sw tank, they do offer a more natural filtration setup, then say a canister filter full of man made materials. Plus if you do it correctly, you could sustain your 100g tank with nothing more than a sump/refugium and your pwc's...just depends on individual circumstances
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from experience the best way to speed up a cycle is just let it go on its own. the more flow in the tank usually releases bacteria from the rock and help out a bit. on the skimmer it really wont make a difference on the cycle. a skimmer picks up waste out of the water and you have no bioload so no waste. a skimmer during cycle really wont hurt or help. it would just help break in your skimmer that way its ready when you start adding fish.
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i have a 100 gallon reef tank with a 30 gallon sump/ refugium full of chaeto and about 300 lbs of live rock and a skimmer. no other filters besides the filter that is on my return pump. i do monthly water changes and my water test come out perfectly. its all in jow you set up the tank
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We are getting 2 power-heads tomorrow and some more live rock. It's good to know were off to a good start.

Can anyone tell me what red like growth could be on my rocks it's growing on my base rock too, letting me know my tank is living : ). I included a photo to help.

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We did an API test after a week of being up and running, 4 days with the live rock.

The test results are:

PH- 82
NH3- 0ppm
No2- 5.0ppm
No3- 160
Temp- 86F

Is this a good start? The live rock is extremely good. There are things growing everywhere. Should we do a water change or just wait till there are no nitrites.
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