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Old 11-30-2006, 11:21 PM   #1
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Hi all forumers,

Im new to this forum and relatively new to this hobby as well.Hope to get some vital advices from you guys.

I currently have a basic saltwater setup.
-tank size 2' x 1' x 1'(15gal i believe)
-aprx. 3kg of liverock

Due to the size..how many fishes are recommended? lets say each fish is about 1.5".

Actually, recently all my fishes died in a span of 3days! after browsing thru the forum i believe its caused by high nitrate level but ive not got my tester kit yet to be sure.So im planning to get the kit and start a new.

Pls advice. Thanks
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Old 12-01-2006, 01:30 AM   #2
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One. Maybe two small fish?

15 gallons is very small, and will require frequent PWC to keep your nitrates in check.

What kind of filter, skimmer, clean up crew?

Also, 7 pounds of LR is really nominal. You should aim for 1.5-2 pounds of LR per gallon. So roughly about 10-15kg of LR. With that amount, you're not gonna have room for more than one or two fish tops.
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Old 12-01-2006, 03:28 AM   #3
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As a newbie, i can advise you that 15gal is small, i say if you have the means, DOUBLE that. I have a 29gal myself. Since you had the loss, i say upgrade the tank and get about 40kg of live rock. Cycle the fishless way, and keep your stock to 4 small fishes and you will be fine!!

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One. Maybe two small fish?

15 gallons is very small, and will require frequent PWC to keep your nitrates in check.

What kind of filter, skimmer, clean up crew?

Also, 7 pounds of LR is really nominal. You should aim for 1.5-2 pounds of LR per gallon. So roughly about 10-15kg of LR. With that amount, you're not gonna have room for more than one or two fish tops.
okie..let me tell you wat i had in my tank b4 everything died(i managed to save 1 clown n 1 yellow tail blue damsel.) . excluding the two, i had 2 black domino dansel, 2 3-stripe damsel and another 2 percula clown fishes. Sounds very much excessive huh!? but they are all pretty small roughly 1"-1.5" max. i also have 1 hermit and 1 bi color blenny.

On the filter..im using 2 hang on filters..thats all without skimmer or powerhead. Is a skimmer really necessary?

thanks for the advises so far..anymore pointers for me? i agree 15gal tank is pretty small but i think i have to stick to it for now.what would be ideal for a tank this size?
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Wow, that was a huge bioload. Your water parameters were probably out of whack.
Here is a great site to look for fish for smaller tanks.
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Skimmers are not required but lots of folks love them.
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That is a HUGE bioload. Way too much. Clown fish do get larger you know. Up to 3 inches.

I'd think a couple damsels or a clown and a damsel would be the most for 15 gallons.
Skimmer isn't needed as Roka suggested, just helps to lighten the bioload.
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That is a huge bio load for that size tank. It looks like your fish might have died from ammonia poisoning. As stated earlier 1 to 2 at the most. If I were you I would check out the nano forum on this site for some good tips. I was going to move this there but it sounds like you have a FOWLR tank also so we`ll leave it here. Just check out the nano forum.
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IMO you seem to have a large goal, and a 15 gallon tank just won't keep you happy for long.

Use the 15 gallon as a fuge or QT tank for a larger tank. Maybe 30 or 55 gallons?
That would give you some more play room. I also have a 30 gallon tank and am already wanting to go larger. The larger tanks are more expensive to setup, but far more forgiving than there smaller counter parts.
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thank you all for your advice.I guess ill just stick w the damsel and clown that i managed to save. Would adding a blennie affect the setup? cos i guess i need some cleaning agents

I will check the nano forum as adviced..just spotted it(since its a subforum)
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Get rid of the damsel and go for a shrimp goby and a pistol shrimp.
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