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Old 04-17-2014, 11:37 AM   #1
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Order to introduce fish

I am just getting ready to add fish to my tank within the next couple weeks and am wondering if I could get some help on the order to add my fish and any special tips of introducing these fish. I have decided on the type of fish I want and now I just need to figure out what order to add them and how to do it. I am introducing a few snails and hermit crabs this weekend as a clean up crew and will go from there. I know that I should only add one or two fish at a time and then wait until the water parameters are back to normal in a few weeks to add more. This is great and I will do this.

My tank is a 75 gallon FOWLR aquarium that might be changed to a reef tank in the future after I feel like I am in the right place with the fish and feel good about taking care of what I have. I already have the lighting for the coral so it should not be too costly at that time to convert it over.

Here is the list of fish that I want in my aquarium:

Coral Beauty Angelfish
Royal Gramma
Midas Blenny
Banggai Cardinal
Ocellaris Clownfish
One Spot Foxface
Longnose Hawkfish
Kole Yellow Eye Tang
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse

I would like to add a 10th fish but want something very interesting that would get along with these fish, the CUC and coral in the future. If there is any advice on what to get I would love to hear it.

Any help on what order to add these fish or how much CUC to get in there this weekend so I can start planning would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your help.
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:52 PM   #2
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With the bigger fish you got on the list, I would suggest cutting the list down to only 8 fish.

The Yellow Eye Tang and Foxface alone will be at the max for your tank.

For your cardinal if you want to keep it, I would suggest you get at least 3. They don't like large groups but they do well in small groups.

As for as order goes, when I put my fish in, I couldn't stick to an order because the stores never had the fish I wanted when I wanted it. So I suggest just get the fish that is in the stores at the time and adding them slowly. I always fed my fish and turned the lights off when I was adding a new fish.
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:36 PM   #3
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I'd add the tang and angel last. Like was said I'd drop the foxface at least. That's a high bioload with 2 6-7" fish in there
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Do you know how to acclimate your new fish and inverts properly?
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I do not know all the details on how to acclimate my fish and inverts properly yet. I have been taking it one step at a time and now that I am ready to introduce them I need to learn how to acclimate them. Any help on that would be appreciated as well.
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:24 AM   #6
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Look up the drip acclimation method
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Drip acclimation is so easy!

All you do is get an air hose you would use for any aquarium pump, get the water from your tank flowing in it by basically sucking on it like a straw. Let gravity do the work! You tie a knot in the hose and get it to start dripping instead of just rushing out. The knot will be your control on how much you let the water drip.

Get a clean bucket or large bowl and put your fish in the bowl. Mostly large bowls work or small buckets because you don't start out with a lot of water from the bag the fish is in. You let the water from your tank drip into the bucket or bowl with the new fish in it. Let it go for about 10 minutes and get a small cup and take water out of the bowl with the cup. Let the drip continue again until it's filled up some more and take more water out. Continue to do this for about 40 minutes and your water from the tank should be the majority of the water now in the bowl or bucket.

Take your net and take the fish out and into your tank. Simple!
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Thank you for your help with the drip acclimation. That seemed to work well as I added a small cleanup crew of about 10 snails and 5 tiny hermit crabs a week and a half ago and they seem to be doing well. My plan is to start adding fish this weekend and I would like to start with two of them. I need a little advice on this. Above I was told to add the cardinals in a group of 3, is this necessary or will 1 be fine alone? I only ever seem to see them alone in other tanks and this is my preference so I can have a variety of fish. The fish I would like to add this weekend are a Bengaii Cardinal and a Royal Gramma however the Midas Blenny or Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse are also options to start with (in some combination) if i cannot find the Benggai Cardinal or Royal Gramma. I should be able to find what I am looking for, though, as I have several saltwater fish stores within 20-25 miles of my house and several more if I travel a little further. Before I add fish, though, I want to make sure everything is looking okay and I also need to decide on 1 or 3 Benggai cardinals as this could change my plan of which fish to add.

I took a water sample to a friend to help me test it and he said that all the parameters looked good however I do have a concern. The cleanup crew seems to be doing well but where they are clearing the algae off the rocks they leave spots of white behind. Is this normal or is there something else I need to test for or make sure is looking right before I start adding my fish? When I did a search it sounds like maybe my calcium is low or something and I have not talked to my friend yet to see if that was something he tested for.

I am also wondering if I can get some advice on feeding my fish. I am assuming I will be able to find what I am looking for this weekend so what do I need to feed a Benggai Cardinal and Royal Gramma or the Midas Blenny or Carpernter's Flasher Wrasse if those are what I end up with and how often?

Thank you to everyone for your help again.
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Saltwater Aquarium Fish for Marine Aquariums: Kaudern's Cardinal - Tank-Bred

I like the Benggai Cardinal and I do suggest 2 or 3, but no more. They can do fine on their own, but I think they look better when in a small group. I also think they prefer a small group, but a large group is when they get aggressive towards one another. They thrive in a group of two or three, but not in a bigger group.

If you are doing a Fish Only with Live Rock, you do not need to worry about calcium as that's for more of a reefer thing. The white could just be poop, or the rock just being cleaned. I wouldn't worry about it, as long as your test show good results, I wouldn't worry. Plus the salt we use has a good dose of calcium already that would be enough for a FOWLR tank. If you can take a picture and post it, so we can see. It would help us a lot in determining if you have an issue.

Feed once a day and enough food where they can eat it all in two minutes. Remember your clean up crew needs to have a little food as well. So you should be fine. I feed my guys Frozen Brine shrimp, Krill, Mysis Shrimp, and Plankton. Squid as well! I got a pack that has a lot of food in it. I also feed Spectrum Pellets and a good marine flake food!

What I normally do is put my tank water in a small dixie cup and drop the food into it to thaw out. I put some pellets or flakes in to add to the mixture and I stir the food up and drop into the tank. I found a cube is normally enough for all my fish and I have 7 bigger fish right now. you might want to cut your food in half if you have smaller fish as to not use as much.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They do have different size pellets for smaller fish as well. So check that food out!

I would also suggest Garlic as an additive. It helps to get picky eaters to eat. It may also help improve the immune system, but I don't think that has totally proven!

Amazon.com: Kent Marine 00657 Garlic Xtreme, 1-Ounce Bottle: Pet Supplies
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If you really want the carpenters it should be the first fish in. They are extremely timid and need to establish them selves before others are added.
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