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Old 02-27-2012, 12:40 AM   #1
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I'm on week one of set up if anyone has suggestions of what I should do or any questions for me and advice is always welcome thanks adhead of time !! Oh and my fish are 3 types of tetra one of each and a dalmation Molly and he's kinda worrying me he hides behind the heater or the down pipe of the filter and doesn't like to swim around to much Idk if they normally do that or if something is wrong, BTW its a 20 gallon marineland biowheel led kit, and I have 8 ghost shrimp (thought they are cool)
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Welcome! Sorry your Molly is hiding by the heater. From what I have read about Mollies, the morphs (which is what you have) do better in slightly brackish conditions and will not live as long as well as being much more prone to disease if kept in freshwater that is not hard and alkaline. Also, your Molly is alone. Mollies are not schooling fish but are shoaling fish. The difference is that shoalers are social bugs with in their own species and schoolers need eachother to survive for protection from predators, eating habits ect.
Also, you said your one week in on your setup? Did you cycle your tank using old filter media? What did you do? If you haven't cycled, that could be the problem! Have your water tested for sure!!!

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Old 02-27-2012, 12:25 PM   #4
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Welcome! Sorry your Molly is hiding by the heater. From what I have read about Mollies, the morphs (which is what you have) do better in slightly brackish conditions and will not live as long as well as being much more prone to disease if kept in freshwater that is not hard and alkaline. Also, your Molly is alone. Mollies are not schooling fish but are shoaling fish. The difference is that shoalers are social bugs with in their own species and schoolers need eachother to survive for protection from predators, eating habits ect.
Also, you said your one week in on your setup? Did you cycle your tank using old filter media? What did you do? If you haven't cycled, that could be the problem! Have your water tested for sure!!!

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Ahh that makes sense but the funny thing is he was swimming around all playfully with the lights off and Im looking to get a API master kit today make sure everything is alright
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Okay...if he's swims happily at lights out, IMO that means he just needs some of his own kind to socialize with. Definetely check the water condition, and if all is good, wait a couple days and then check it again. If it's still good, check again in a couple more days and at that time, if all is perfect, and he is still hiding, I would add 1 or 2 more mollies for him.
I'm still wondering something. Did you cycle your tank prior to adding your fish? If not you will have to be extremely diligent with daily water changes for a time to keep the condition stable.

Let me know how your water checks out
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I'm in the cycle stage but they all seem happy but tonight I'm going to start doing pwc as much as possible and this arises another question when I do the water changes do I have to declorinate the water before I pour it in there (sorry if its a dumb question lol) and what kind of vacuum do you guys recommend?
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Forgot to mention. You said you have 3 types of tetras and only one of each type? What types do you have? Tetras are also either schooling or shoaling species. For them to fair well and live healthy lives, they will need others of their own kind as well. Unfortunately they will not be at their best singly, even though they are all tetras.
The Mollies reach between 3.2"-4.8" and require a minimum tank size of 36" x 12" x 12". I read that mollies generally live between 6-10 months in freshwater conditions. So, that is something to concider too.
If it were me, I'd choose to either keep the tetras or keep the mollies and add fish that will thrive in the water conditions to which fish you choose. Don't get me wrong though, many people keep both. I just wouldn't. If fish are stressed they are prone to disease . The best way to prevent stress is to keep them in or as close to their preffered conditions.
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I'm in the cycle stage but they all seem happy but tonight I'm going to start doing pwc as much as possible and this arises another question when I do the water changes do I have to declorinate the water before I pour it in there (sorry if its a dumb question lol) and what kind of vacuum do you guys recommend?
Hey there's never a dumb question! We all start somewhere and none of us jump in knowing it all from day one

Yes. Always dechlorinate your clean water before adding it to the tank. If you pour the water in first the chlorine already gets into the system. Also, it's not completely neccassary but I do it just to keep the stress down in my fish. When I add new water I always match the temperature exact to that in the tank. I have two themometers on the tank. One down low and the other on the opposite side of the tank up high. I use the high one to match the temp. It's okay if it's a degree or two off. I wouldn't reccomend much more though. And it's always more of a shock if the new water is cooler than the tank water.

I would up the WC to 65% since you are in a cycle. Definetely do it everyday for awhile and check you water consistantly before each water change. You don't want to loose your fish. And for sure hold off on adding anymore fish until you tank is fully cycled. You can also add Stress Zyme or something similar to add good bacteria to aid in the cycle. You can also get some mature gravel from a friend or the LFS you bought your fish from to help boost the cycle. Of course, be sure there are no dead or dying fish in the tank you get the gravel from! You can put the gravel in a nylon hose and set it in your tank for a couple weeks. That's how I get my new tanks up and running. Works like a charm!

Keep a close eye on your fish!If any are acting off, check your water. I would do this even if you already changed the water and later in the evening things were looking bad for the fish.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:51 PM   #9
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I have a black skirt tetra a black tetra and I think a red eye tetra, so supplys I would need for water changes a 5 gal bucket dechlorinter and API master kit? And 65% water changes?!! Holy cow that's like 13 gallons give or take in a 20 gallon tank? And when I dechlorinate the replacement water should I let it sit over night? And this might be a little difficult for me ATM cause I have a kid and work long hours would it be okay if I did like 15 to 25 pwc daily?
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And scratch that I'm now unemployed so 65 % water changes don't sound to horrible now:/
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