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Old 04-06-2005, 06:55 AM   #11
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i've heard enough bad things about jebo products to make me not want to buy them however i'm not saying they dont work since i dont have any.
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Old 04-06-2005, 10:14 PM   #12
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Dr Girl_ 1 year warranty-- If you don't own it ,you can't knock it! The GPH rating on Eheims has been tested by other aquarists I have spoken with and theirs is also grossly overrated! If you understand though that GPH ratings aren't a major issue when speaking of cannister filters and that they are biological/chemical cleaners because of their size and ability to hold large amounts of different media.Parts on the Jebo are not cheap at all.They will break though when abused or not used in a careful manner as will on any cannister.The money not wasted on an Eheim is well spent on other fish and supplies.If you wanted a great filter ,why would you buy the cheapest Eheim there is?As far as comparison prices go,Pet solutions are as much as $60.00 more than the superfishstore on the better Eheims.Compare models 2026,2028,2222,2224. And I wouldn't buy a Mercedes E-class either because their quality has suffered a major blow.
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Old 04-15-2005, 10:46 AM   #13
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Filstar is loud (at least mine is)

hmm... I am sitting 15 feet from my Aquarium as I type this message on a laptop, and I can still hear my Filstar XP3, and it's in a cabinet with the door closed. If I open the door, then I can hear it from 25 feet away and this is above the noise of the refrigirator.

It's been running for 2 days now and has not become any more silent.
The water is crystal clear though, but overal I am disappointed with the noise, I went from a near silent Aquaclear 70 to super loud.

I am going to call Aquarium Pharmicuticals today and see if there is a issue with the impeller, maybe I have a defective unit. I did inspect the impeller and the well, and there are no visible signs of damage or defect.




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Can't go wrong with a Filstar XP3, They are a great canister for the money. Mine is almost silent. You have to be against aquarium to hear it. Does an excellent job filtering also. HTH
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Old 04-15-2005, 11:35 PM   #14
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Go Jebo -super quiet-super efficient-super reliable
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:01 PM   #15
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The filstars are extremely loud, probably 10 times or more louder than say a Hagen Aquaclear 70 (old 300)

If you want quiet stay far away from the Rena products.

If noise is not a issue the Filstar would be a good choice, it's well made and keeps the water crystal clear.

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Eheim classics are far better, but also a fair bit more pricey. For a less-expensive, highly-rated canister, consider a Rena Filstar XP3.
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Old 04-17-2005, 02:20 PM   #16
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The filstars are extremely loud, probably 10 times or more louder than say a Hagen Aquaclear 70 (old 300)

If you want quiet stay far away from the Rena products.
Sorry, but yours is a single, short experience.....I know probably 100+ people running Filstar xp3's and nobody has a noise problem with theirs....I would suggest that something is wrong with yours.

And as far as Rena products go, not only are their Filstars typically quiet, their air-pumps are amongrst the most quiet available.
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I don't think there was anything wrong with it, I think it's just a matter of what you consider loud or not.

I have seen post after post complaining about the Filstars and noise, I also saw a lot saying they are quiet, and I ordered one because there where a lot of people who said they were super quiet, but that in reality was not the fact.

I guess the ultimate test would be to use a decibel tester to see how many a Filstar really produces. From my experience I would say it would be pretty high.

Even if I did have a 'bad' one it kind of points to some manufacturing quality problems.

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Sorry, but yours is a single, short experience.....I know probably 100+ people running Filstar xp3's and nobody has a noise problem with theirs....I would suggest that something is wrong with yours.
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Old 04-26-2005, 04:38 PM   #18
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Jebo's are great for their price.

but don't confuse it with the quality of a Eheim.


First question is what size tank to you plan to run this canister on and what other forms of filtration does it currently have?


2213 as the only mechanical filter isn't the best choice for a tank larger then 29 gal when fully stocked. It would be a great secondary filter for additional biological filtration. IMO if its around 29 gal i would step up to the 2215 or even the 2217 if its around 40+ gals.

If you are ok not getting all the bells and whistles of current canisters then the classics are a great, simple, efficient filter when mated to a proper sized tank.

Renas are also a great canister for the price. I have a friend that runs 3 (xp2 and xp3) of them and he loves them. They do produce a slight hum, but overall are very quiet and well built.


If i were to compare them to the automotive world...

Jebo = hyundai/ Daiwoo (potentially just as reliable as any other car, but the build quality just is not there)

Rena = Subaru (Good price to quality ratio)

Ehiem = Lexus (Excellent build quality, but still just an overpriced Toyota) You got to pay to play.

Think i over generalized a bit, but its just to give you a rough idea on where I think these canisters stand. If your not into cars, just ignore that last part.
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Wooo! The understatement of the year!

I have had a Filstar XP3 for a long time. I have to say it is extremely quite. Unfortunately for me, I got it after I had set up my tank. It is too big to fit through the door of my corner tank, so it has to sit outside the cabinet, on the floor. (My wife deftly decorated around it.) Even when my wife and I are sitting there reading, you can barely hear it. As I have said before, my laptop fan is louder than the XP3.

Snorkel, not sure why yours is loud, but I would definitely call Rena before I give up on the filter.
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If you don't own a Jebo,you can't rate it. All of the many aquarists I've spoken with believe the Jebo is an excellent filter.The price difference wasted on an Eheim could be used for more fish and supplies.When handled with care ,the Jebo can easily last as long if not longer than Eheim.The 828 is the equivalent of the Pro 2 series with all the same features.I haven't a complaint about my quiet,efficient,reliable 828.
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