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Old 12-09-2014, 11:49 AM   #1
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Electric gravel vac?

Is the electric gravel vacuum from petsmart worth it?
I hate how it is almost a 50% water change if i wanna vacuum my gravel out good. this just collects the bad stuff and spits the water back in the tank where i can later do a water change with my own amount.
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:51 PM   #2
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You don't need to vacuum the bottom material. The organic fish and plant material that collects on the bottom will dissolve in the tank water. So, all you need to do is remove and replace the water.

The 50 percent water change every week or even two, will keep the water safe for the fish and material that's left dissolves and nourishes any plants you keep.

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Old 12-09-2014, 06:01 PM   #3
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If the substrate is deep some will collect and rot


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Old 12-09-2014, 06:16 PM   #4
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Is the electric gravel vacuum from petsmart worth it?
I hate how it is almost a 50% water change if i wanna vacuum my gravel out good. this just collects the bad stuff and spits the water back in the tank where i can later do a water change with my own amount.
It's good, and bad. If you're siphoning out your gravel regularly then you might as well do it with a regular gravel vac and do the 50% water change. Your fish will thank you.

The electric gravel vac could presumably cause a spike in ammonia or nitrate. As the food and poo rots in the substrate it releases ammonia that sits in the gravel due to no flow. The electric vacs could presumably blow it all over the tank causing a spike.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:11 PM   #5
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Hello Chaos...

You don't need to vacuum the bottom material. The organic fish and plant material that collects on the bottom will dissolve in the tank water. So, all you need to do is remove and replace the water.

The 50 percent water change every week or even two, will keep the water safe for the fish and material that's left dissolves and nourishes any plants you keep.

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I would but the poop from a 8 inch oscar isnt very pretty on white rocks after about 2 weeks.
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I bought one from Dr. Fosters and Smith and another on Amazon. i love mine. Before my tanks were heavily planted I could not stand the gunk on my sand. This little tool made cleanups easier. It even help start water flow into the hose to change water and makes water changes faster. The only problems I have had are the extension tube was supposed to slide in and out to lengthen it or shorten it and it stuck after the first use. I just bought a shorter piece of water pipe the same size and used the longer stuck one for deep tank and the shorter one for shallow tanks. I would suggest removing the batteries after use and dry it out between uses. The inside tends to rust if you don't dry it. Small price to pay for a quick clean up.
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I bought one from Dr. Fosters and Smith and another on Amazon. i love mine. Before my tanks were heavily planted I could not stand the gunk on my sand. This little tool made cleanups easier. It even help start water flow into the hose to change water and makes water changes faster. The only problems I have had are the extension tube was supposed to slide in and out to lengthen it or shorten it and it stuck after the first use. I just bought a shorter piece of water pipe the same size and used the longer stuck one for deep tank and the shorter one for shallow tanks. I would suggest removing the batteries after use and dry it out between uses. The inside tends to rust if you don't dry it. Small price to pay for a quick clean up.
Do u think it would work good for a 55 gallon tank? down to my 5 gallon fry tanks?
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On a side note.. a weekly 50% wc for an 8 " oscar in a 55 is actually less than ideal.. 2 would be better.. I've heard the ehiem model is halfway decent..

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Hello Chaos...

You don't need to vacuum the bottom material. The organic fish and plant material that collects on the bottom will dissolve in the tank water. So, all you need to do is remove and replace the water.

The 50 percent water change every week or even two, will keep the water safe for the fish and material that's left dissolves and nourishes any plants you keep.

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In general, this is bad advice. Removing that solid debris before it breaks down will slow the rise of nitrates. Perhaps in a heavily planted tank, you may want the extra ammonia and nitrates created, but in many tanks (perhaps even most) this would be bad advice.
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In general, this is bad advice. Removing that solid debris before it breaks down will slow the rise of nitrates. Perhaps in a heavily planted tank, you may want the extra ammonia and nitrates created, but in many tanks (perhaps even most) this would be bad advice.
More than likely Cut and pasted from the library of useless Advice..

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