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Old 08-01-2011, 07:56 PM   #1
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freshwater sump

Im new to having a sump on a freshwater tank so if anybody could give me some info on what I should put in a 20 gal sump for a 55 gal tank it would be a big help.
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Old 08-01-2011, 07:59 PM   #2
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Some sort of filter pad, and bio balls
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Old 08-01-2011, 08:00 PM   #3
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You can also put all your equipment on it, except CO2 if your dosing it
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Old 08-01-2011, 09:08 PM   #4
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Well I know the basics I have bio balls and filter pads and know to put my heater in it I jusg kinda want to know if there is any sump design better than the other or if there is more things I can put in it to keep the water cleaner
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Most people don't recommend carbon because it removes trace elements. Pilyfill works as a good water polisher
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I wouldn't waste my time or any money on a freshwater sump. A canister is a much better option.
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Old 08-02-2011, 08:16 AM   #7
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In your opinion. If the tank is a reef ready tank it is certainly easier just to use a sump than to plug the holes and go with a canister. If the option is a hang on overflow I'd scrap it and go with a canister for sure.

Not sure why you think a sump is a waste of money on a FW tank. It's a big customizable filter with tons of room for bio media and mechanical media IMO, not to mention the added water volume, however slight, is never a bad thing.
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Canisters offer the same thing but are easier to setup, especially for people not used to dealing with them. They are also more effective. I have used multiple types of sumps and canisters and I definitely would choose a good canister over a sump any day.
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More effective is an opinion. I have also used multiple types of sumps and canisters.

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Obviously it varies on setup, previous experience, etc. But I have never used a sump that I would prefer over a Fluval FX5.

There may be more room for media, but the media isn't used as effectively. Sumps can be inefficient mechanical filters. As soon as the media is clogged at all the water will take the path of least resistance and simply go around the mechanical media. In a canister this is not an option. As the media collects more debris there is no path of lesser resistance and the water keeps going through the media and keeps getting cleaned. You only need so much biomedia. If the tank only requires one liter of submerged biomedia it is of no benefit to have a sump with the ability to hold ten liters.

I know many people use and prefer sumps over canisters, but IME a canister is a more effective, easier to setup and maintain, and usually cheaper option. All I want to do is make sure that people at least look into canisters when deciding on filtration.
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