On my (slow) way out of the hobby... need advice

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callisto9

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Well, it's been nearly a year now since I started my planted aquarium journey. After a lot of frustration, a lot of fish/snail deaths, a lot of money wasted on plants that didn't make it, I have decided to leave the hobby. I apparently don't have the gift of keeping an aquarium and in the short year I've been doing this, over 20 fish have died in my care, as well as about seven mystery snails. I change the water, I do parameter testing, but I just suck at this.

The fish that have died in my care: two peacock gudgeons, over 10 guppies, one glowlight tetra, two kuhli loaches, two galaxy rasboras... I'm sure there's a few more I'm forgetting.

None of my plants have done well. I have all low-light plants, but they all rot and die or get so covered with diatoms they aren't pretty to look at anymore. I didn't want to go down the fancy ferts route, but even with basic care and root tabs, I can't keep plants.

I'm not looking for sympathy or looking to change my mind on this decision. I made one last attempt last night to re-excite me about this hobby and picked up three cobra endlers, two lyretail mollies and two fancy guppies, but two of the endlers died overnight. This is a clear sign I need to stop bringing fish home. The only fish that have done well are my dwarf gourami and my glowlight tetras - the tetras are nearly a year old, and the gourami is over eight months old.

I now do water changes every two weeks instead of every week, but that's a recently thing... wondering if that could be the source of my recent issues. Other than that, I have NO IDEA why any of my fish have died. They have looked fine and then they're gone. Sometimes, I never even find the body (not sure how that's possible).

So, I'm getting rid of all the slightly unhealthy plants and replacing with plastic. I've taken out the spectrum lighting and put the original LED hood back on. What's the best plan of action to keep what fish I have happy and healthy for the remainder of their time in my death tank? Or, should I just cut my losses and give them all away? I'm tired of killing stuff. Should I just keep up with my water changes and wait it out? Any advice is much appreciated.
 
Okay so if I was you, id take all the plants out and kill the lights for 2 days. Remove the root tabs because they will be un-needed. They will contribute to algae. The lights off should do away with the diatoms. Whats your tank size? Can you tell me your parameters?
 
Okay so if I was you, id take all the plants out and kill the lights for 2 days. Remove the root tabs because they will be un-needed. They will contribute to algae. The lights off should do away with the diatoms. Whats your tank size? Can you tell me your parameters?

Root tabs are likely long gone by now. Last set put in was 3+ months ago.

I have a 20G high tank. Just cleaned the diatoms off of all the rocks, plants, etc. this week, so there's not left now.

I'll be pulling most of the plants in the next week or so. There's a few left that are doing OK.

Thanks for the advice. I've got cheapie LEDs on there now. On about 14 hours a day.
 
Sorry to hear your leaving the hobby but you have to do what you feel is best. I would still dial down the LED's to 8 hours and if your still have diatom issues your tap water must be high in silicates. If your not doing any plants you can easily pop some phosphate remover in your filter as phosphate removers also remove silicates from your water which the diatoms need. With only fish you can just continue with your WC's as is and not worry about adding any ferts or anything making your tank pretty simple to run. The remaining fish should do fine. Just out of curiosity your tap water isn't on a water softner unit is it? I just have to wonder if you have not so good tap water which could have been causing a ton of your issues.
 
Parameters:
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrate: 0ppm
Nitrate: 20-30ppm
Phosphate: .5ppm

My third and remaining cobra endler is missing. :nono: They didn't even make it 24 hours.

No water softener here. Just tap water with Prime water conditioner.

I'll dial back the LEDs.
 
Just don't know what to make of it honestly. I wish you the best no matter what you decide to do!
 
Just out of curiosity were you adding any basic ferts to the water column too?
 
Is there any way you can get a water quality report from your local municipality/county? If so, can you post it? Some counties post it on their website, too. Maybe provide us with a link?

Do you buy your fish from the same retailer, every time?

As a last resort, and depending on funds, you may want to go the reverse osmosis route. You will need to add the minerals back in, but this will give the situation a different perspective.

David
 
Are you getting ALL the fish from the same shop. I understand your frustration but hang in there. Go back to basics. Strip down the whole tank and start from scratch. You obviously have a passion for fish, don't just give it up. I have a shop in my town that I used to get fish from. The same thing used to happen, not as quick as overnight but a few days. They looked very healthy in store but died in a few days. As simple as it sounds, I just got my fish elsewhere. Is it possible for you to do this. Even a few guppies and see how you get on???
 
Is there any way you can get a water quality report from your local municipality/county? If so, can you post it? Some counties post it on their website, too. Maybe provide us with a link?

Do you buy your fish from the same retailer, every time?

As a last resort, and depending on funds, you may want to go the reverse osmosis route. You will need to add the minerals back in, but this will give the situation a different perspective.

David

I don't know about the water quality report. I'll look. I will post if I can find a link.

I have gotten my fish from two different LFS and PetSmart. I've had problems across the board. The fish that have done well are my dwarf gourami from PetSmart and my glowlight tetras from my LFS.

I am not looking to spend any more time or money on this hobby. Just going to try to keep the tank clean and stable for the remainder of the time I have the fish.
 
Are you getting ALL the fish from the same shop. I understand your frustration but hang in there. Go back to basics. Strip down the whole tank and start from scratch. You obviously have a passion for fish, don't just give it up. I have a shop in my town that I used to get fish from. The same thing used to happen, not as quick as overnight but a few days. They looked very healthy in store but died in a few days. As simple as it sounds, I just got my fish elsewhere. Is it possible for you to do this. Even a few guppies and see how you get on???

I'm not looking to stay in the hobby. It's been a colossal waste of time and money. I do not enjoy it.

I've gotten my fish from two different LFS and PetSmart. They all seem to suffer the same fate. I can't get most of them past five months. The only fish that have done well is a dwarf gourami from PetSmart and some glowlight tetras from the LFS.

Also, how in the HECK is it that I've lost three fish and never found their skeletons?!

Is it at ALL possible my dwarf gourami is causing these deaths? I've seen him chase a fish for a few seconds, but never attack. He's feisty, but I've never seen him do any damage.

Still can't find that third cobra endler. :nono:
 
I'm not looking to stay in the hobby. It's been a colossal waste of time and money. I do not enjoy it.

I've gotten my fish from two different LFS and PetSmart. They all seem to suffer the same fate. I can't get most of them past five months. The only fish that have done well is a dwarf gourami from PetSmart and some glowlight tetras from the LFS.

Also, how in the HECK is it that I've lost three fish and never found their skeletons?!

Is it at ALL possible my dwarf gourami is causing these deaths? I've seen him chase a fish for a few seconds, but never attack. He's feisty, but I've never seen him do any damage.

Still can't find that third cobra endler. :nono:

Yes. DG can be agressive. That would make sense why he is still alive too. The glofish are probably scary to him
 
Yes. DG can be agressive. That would make sense why he is still alive too. The glofish are probably scary to him

They are glowlight tetras, not glowfish. One died a while back, now there are six. Never did find that body. :hide: If the DG was the problem, how would I know it? All the snail and fish deaths are rather generic... nothing really sticks out about the deaths...
 
They are glowlight tetras, not glowfish. One died a while back, now there are six. Never did find that body. :hide: If the DQ was the problem, how would I know it? All the snail and fish deaths are rather generic... nothing really sticks out about the deaths...

Take the dg out for a month or 2 and see if more die! Sorry I meant glowlight. Auto correct put glofish. They glowlights stick to a group which can be intimidating to the dg
 
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