Is my ryukin goldfish ok in a 5 gallon?

[josh7]

Not trying to attack you here I'm just going to say from now on make sure to research the fish you are getting for your tank. Don't listen to lfs people research the fish yourself and figure out what size tank they need in the future. I would try to get a 20 long if you get a 20. I still reccomend a 29 gallon the extra water will help.

Trust me its not for nothing the fish will really have a better life and won't die a painful death from his organs being to big.

 

[AC-X2]

Not trying to attack you here I'm just going to say from now on make sure to research the fish you are getting for your tank. Don't listen to lfs people research the fish yourself and figure out what size tank they need in the future. I would try to get a 20 long if you get a 20. I still reccomend a 29 gallon the extra water will help.

Trust me its not for nothing the fish will really have a better life and won't die a painful death from his organs being to big.

Yes, like I said I bought him before before I knew a lot of what I know now. I always research new fish I get now.

I meant I hope he isn't already stunted and dies after I've already gotten a new tank.

 

[josh7]

Oh that's good to hear! As far as the stunting goes even if it is stunted, that bigger tank will benefit him and he should still live most of his lifespan. I have seen some cases where a stunted fish has bounced back and lived its entire life span with no issues whatsoever it just didn't grow to its max potential.

 

[Scottyhorse]

In the meantime, I would be doing lots of water changes.

 

[AC-X2]

Oh that's good to hear! As far as the stunting goes even if it is stunted, that bigger tank will benefit him and he should still live most of his lifespan. I have seen some cases where a stunted fish has bounced back and lived its entire life span with no issues whatsoever it just didn't grow to its max potential.

That's encouraging. I hope it turns out ok, this is the only fish I've ever actually gotten attached to.

 

[AC-X2]

In the meantime, I would be doing lots of water changes.

Yep, I've been doing that already.

 

[josh7]

I do believe it will be fine and will live many years to come. It will also be so much happier in his bigger home!

 

[AC-X2]

I found out that the Marineland Bio-Wheel 20 gallon aquarium kit is on sale at petsmart for $90. This looks like a good deal, tank, hood, led lights, penguin bio wheel filter, and starter stuff like food and nets. I would end up paying $60 for a 20 gal at the $1 per gal sale and a aquaclear 50, that's without hood or lights. I think the Marineland sale is a better deal. You can get a 29 gallon one for about $20 more.

What do you guys think?

 

[AC-X2]

I do believe it will be fine and will live many years to come. It will also be so much happier in his bigger home!

They can live 15-20 years right?

 

[josh7]

They can live 15-20 years right?

Something like that I have heard from 10-20 years. I would say go for the 29 gallon to at the 1 dollar per gallon sale it will benefit him in the long run.

 

[MJSerik]

I'm curious, if a fish is stunted then moved to an appropriate tank, can it recover?

 

[Scottyhorse]

Not always.

I would get a 29g tank and an AC 70 honestly. You can just use a desk lamp for a temp. light and there is no reason for a hood. You'll be better off with the extra gallon age and a better filter. Besides you probably already have food and nets.

 

[josh7]

I'm curious, if a fish is stunted then moved to an appropriate tank, can it recover?

Once in a while they do most of the time they can't.

 

[MJSerik]

Thanks. Was super curious

 

[AC-X2]

Not always.

I would get a 29g tank and an AC 70 honestly. You can just use a desk lamp for a temp. light and there is no reason for a hood. You'll be better off with the extra gallon age and a better filter. Besides you probably already have food and nets.

Hmm, I guess. It just seemed like a good deal with the nice hood/lights and all. In the future when I want a hood what would my options be?

 

[AC-X2]

Well I looked online at reviews of the Marineland kit and I don't think it's a good idea. Many people have problems with the hood, and the filter is only 150 gph. So it will be a 20 or 29 from petco's sale and a aquaclear 50 or 70 with pfs and homemade lighting setup.

 

[GIZMOSPAZZ]

I would most definitely recommend a hood or glass top for your new tank. My goldfish loves to jump. And definitely get the biggest tank you can for your fish. IMO fancies need a minimum of 30g for one fish and single tails need 55g. I have a shubunkin goldfish, which is a single tail, and he is growing quickly in his 55g. I have two AC70 filters to manage the bioload along with a moderately planted tank.
Remember to post a pic when you get your goldfish into his new tank.

 

[AC-X2]

I would most definitely recommend a hood or glass top for your new tank. My goldfish loves to jump. And definitely get the biggest tank you can for your fish. IMO fancies need a minimum of 30g for one fish and single tails need 55g. I have a shubunkin goldfish, which is a single tail, and he is growing quickly in his 55g. I have two AC70 filters to manage the bioload along with a moderately planted tank.
Remember to post a pic when you get your goldfish into his new tank.

A hood will be too expensive right now, I'll see about a universal glass top thing. It'll probably be a week and a half before I have it all setup. Gotta wait for that petco sale.

 

[AC-X2]

Petco is having a sale with the Penguin BioWheel 350 for $28 opposed to the AC 70 for $50. Anyone have experience with the Penguin 350? Or is it worth the extra $20 for a AC 70.

Sorry for all the questions, I'm trying to do it cheap.

 

[severum mama]

I'm not a huge fan of the Penguins, but for that much of a price difference I can understand why you'd buy one. They work perfectly well, I just don't like the cartridges. You can make your own, though, and save money on buying them in the long run. The Penguin is going to be louder than the Aquaclear, if that is a concern.

29 gallon would be a great size for your goldfish. However, I disagree about the sense of urgency in this thread. Is the fish in an inappropriately sized tank? Yes, of course, and I'm not disputing that. But you mentioned that you do a lot of water changes, and if you change enough water in my experience you can squeak by for a while without causing harm to the fish. Obviously you need to upgrade the tank, but the tone of some of the posts here is "OMG your fish are definitely going to die really soon!" and I just don't think that this is probably the case based on the information you've given.