Grow outs and water changes
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HUKIT
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Thanks Brookster. Good little experiment there.
If I was Rain Man I could read that.
LOL you nave to tilt your head to the left 45deg and use at least a 32" monitor and you will be fine.
Brookster123
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If I was Rain Man I could read that.
I don't know why it won't flip?!?!? Makes me incredibly angry.. than I remember I don't care
you read it though?? What do you think? In all seriousness.. kind of cool..I'd say so.. not for me hahah.. maybe when I'm retired
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I don't know why it won't flip?!?!? Makes me incredibly angry.. than I remember I don't care
I'd say so.. not for me hahah.. maybe when I'm retired
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Yea 6 water changes a day is where I draw the line. Even in a 2 gallon.
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KristaButler
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That's crazy. 6x a day?? Keeping fish must be his job. Whose got time for that?
May the force be with you.
Brookster123
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How'd you spin it?? Oh.. right... the force..
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KristaButler
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With me, the force is.
May the force be with you.
May the force be with you.
Jessiicaxrosex3
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Thats crazy! And probably worth it
Brookster123
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Jack watney, look him up.. discus level:epic..
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Fishy Smell
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Just been having a look through your albums, and yes your fish are spectacular. I've got many of them myself in singles, I particularly liked the Honduran Red Points, the colours are unbelievable. I have 1 nice (still smallish) male but may get some more to breed them. I take it the females have red in the belly like convicts?
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HUKIT
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Nothing every aquarist knows or at the very least should know, Rivers2k was right in the thread he started. To bad it was ruined by information regurgitated over aquarium forums for years and years to come...
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/forums/f15/water-changes-solves-almost-everything-319010.html
Thank you. Yes the females have the typical orange belly.
Fishy Smell
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Oh dear, everyone got a bit snakey on that topic. Each to their own i say.
How soon would a female HRP get the colour in the belly? Bought one today to go with the one i already had that is 99% likely male, and i think (hope) its a female but its only 1" at the most. It doesnt have the colour in the belly but the original one has been doing a bit of dancing around the new one in the traditional breeding format but also chasing it around with a bit of nipping...
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How soon would a female HRP get the colour in the belly? Bought one today to go with the one i already had that is 99% likely male, and i think (hope) its a female but its only 1" at the most. It doesnt have the colour in the belly but the original one has been doing a bit of dancing around the new one in the traditional breeding format but also chasing it around with a bit of nipping...
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BillD
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Unfortunately, this isn't true. There are too many variables in a grow out tank, or any tank, to make that kind of blanket statement. Doing a 50% water change on a heavily stocked grow out tank of, lets say,angels, would almost guarantee fin damaged fish. For sure it would slow growth. Having grown out a few large angel spawns, it is my observation that clean water is at least as important as quality food to get rapid growth without deformities. If I missed 2 days of water changes I had fish with squared off fins which never recovered. If I had to go with one, I would choose clean water over the quality food.
treemanone2003
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It's Jack Wattley. Wattley Discus out of Florida. One of the pioneers in the US. He no longer runs the place as he's just celebrated his 89th or 93rd birthd not too long ago. The gentleman running the place is Gabe and has very big shoes to fill. There's also been quite a bit of controversy over whether or not they're
1) still breeding on site
2) breeding off site or
3) not breeding and outsourcing from others.
As for the thread, i saw it come up but wanted to see where it went.
I wholeheartedly believe WC's make the difference. If you look into the fact that many of the wild fish come from areas that have one form or another of "new" or "fresh" water. Whether it's lakes or rivers (Discus being riverine fish) there's a constant available clean source. Granted, there are some place that tend to have dry seasons, they're not overwhelmingly all that long. Now taking it another step, all of mine (Discus) are domestic. They originated from wilds and certain genes were "bred out" to come up with what's now available. So technically they aren't wilds but they possess genetics that can be traced back.
In that transition period of breeders trying to figure out what works best, it was determined that frequent, large volume WC's were the key in developing large beautiful fish. The reason behind this theory is that fish produce growth inhibiting hormones and since they're kept in small glass houses, the only way to combat stunting (and other issues) is the WC's.
BBradbury, I understand they point you were trying to convey but would say that what you've pointed out isn't relevant to what the op was asking. Also the point about making water chemistry unstable is inaccurate, IMO.
HUKIT, that's a phenomenal calculator. Where by chance did you find that ?
Rivers2k, I did not see that you had a thread similar to this in the past but will go look for it. I for certain would've followed along and offered any "pro WC" support.
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1) still breeding on site
2) breeding off site or
3) not breeding and outsourcing from others.
As for the thread, i saw it come up but wanted to see where it went.
I wholeheartedly believe WC's make the difference. If you look into the fact that many of the wild fish come from areas that have one form or another of "new" or "fresh" water. Whether it's lakes or rivers (Discus being riverine fish) there's a constant available clean source. Granted, there are some place that tend to have dry seasons, they're not overwhelmingly all that long. Now taking it another step, all of mine (Discus) are domestic. They originated from wilds and certain genes were "bred out" to come up with what's now available. So technically they aren't wilds but they possess genetics that can be traced back.
In that transition period of breeders trying to figure out what works best, it was determined that frequent, large volume WC's were the key in developing large beautiful fish. The reason behind this theory is that fish produce growth inhibiting hormones and since they're kept in small glass houses, the only way to combat stunting (and other issues) is the WC's.
BBradbury, I understand they point you were trying to convey but would say that what you've pointed out isn't relevant to what the op was asking. Also the point about making water chemistry unstable is inaccurate, IMO.
HUKIT, that's a phenomenal calculator. Where by chance did you find that ?
Rivers2k, I did not see that you had a thread similar to this in the past but will go look for it. I for certain would've followed along and offered any "pro WC" support.
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HUKIT
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I really don't recall to be honest. I'm sure it was just a late night search trying to find the end of the Internet.
PNWaquarist
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Thanks for posting that link. I've been meaning to sit down and do these calculations, but have been too lazy.
For the sake of my GBRs, I'm probably going to switch from a single 40% weekly WCs to 3 x 20% weekly WCs. I'm shooting for maintaining steady water parameters, which seems to be just as important for them as low nitrates.
aqua_holic
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How much do your water parameters change in a week that you would consider doing a water change every other day?
PNWaquarist
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My nitrates increase by about 40% over the course of a week. The tank water is also visibly darker from driftwood tannins. Since the tank is slightly overstocked, I imagine that the mineral levels also change appreciably.
With most fish, this isn't a problem. With GBRs, I'm more inclined to pamper.
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