Bolivian ram breeding

[rockyofhockey]

Hi I have 2 Bolivian rams for about 3-4 months now and I believe this is the female

And this is the male

Now I'm not sure really what to expect any help will be greatly appreciated

 

[Steve2223]

Rams

I have several breeding pairs of Rams all my females have blue irradesent dots on or around the black center spot. It's hard to see the coloring on the pictures so I can't tell wether the fish you calling a female is or just a immature male. I would be interested to see what someone else says or a much betterpicture
Steve

 

[lilme]

the one with pink bellie is the male

 

[rockyofhockey]

I'm trying to get better pics but the female (which I believe) has 2 black markings on it's side while

The male has a very long red string on it's tail with one solid marking u can also see by the end of his dorsal and anal fin he bright orange with white spots

 

[rockyofhockey]

Forgot to mention but (the female) is always chasing and beating up on the male when ever he comes to her territory. Is this normal. They interlock jaws and he looks like he let's the female bite his tail

 

[Gillie]

I have several breeding pairs of Rams all my females have blue irradesent dots on or around the black center spot. It's hard to see the coloring on the pictures so I can't tell wether the fish you calling a female is or just a immature male. I would be interested to see what someone else says or a much betterpicture
Steve

These are bolivian rams not blue rams.

the one with pink bellie is the male

pink bellies are on female blue rams, bolivians don't show this feature.

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[Gillie]

Judging by the elongate finnage the second one is male, but it's still tough to tell on the other

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[rockyofhockey]

Judging by the elongate finnage the second one is male, but it's still tough to tell on the other

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I got them at the same age so wouldn't you tell if one is if you could tell the others?

 

[Gillie]

I got them at the same age so wouldn't you tell if one is if you could tell the others?

I just noticed a small detail in the 3rd pic, I can see the ovipositor so it is female.

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[rockyofhockey]

I just noticed a small detail in the 3rd pic, I can see the ovipositor so it is female.

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Ok wonderful. Now the female is always chasing on the male when he come near him and they interlock jaws sometime. Also he would just let her but his tail without him moving

 

[rockyofhockey]

Anyone???

 

[Brookster123]

That's standard m/f interaction. They may spawn, may not..

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[rockyofhockey]

That's standard m/f interaction. They may spawn, may not..

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Ok I always thought the male would be the more dominant one but guess not

 

[rockyofhockey]

Any thoughts

 

[Steve2223]

I hope this works

Here is a bad pic of a female ram notice the irradesent blue around the black spot

 

[rockyofhockey]

Here is a bad pic of a female ram notice the irradesent blue around the black spot

I see 2 rams in the pic. Which one are u referring too. And I think those are GBR

 

[Gillie]

Here is a bad pic of a female ram notice the irradesent blue around the black spot

Those are German blue rams Mikrogeophagus ramirezi. The OP's fish are Mikrogeophagus altispinosa, 2 totally different fish.

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[rockyofhockey]

Those are German blue rams Mikrogeophagus ramirezi. The OP's fish are Mikrogeophagus altispinosa, 2 totally different fish.

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Yes I have BOLIVIAN rams. Haha but thx as I really do want GBR's in the future. As for the Bolivians is it common for females to be more dominant

 

[Gillie]

Being cichlids it can go both ways especially if they are the same size. It could be that he isn't quite mature, my female Apistogramma bitaeniata was half the male's size and pushed him around until he was fully mature.

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[rockyofhockey]

Being cichlids it can go both ways especially if they are the same size. It could be that he isn't quite mature, my female Apistogramma bitaeniata was half the male's size and pushed him around until he was fully mature.

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Ok thank you a lot. I believe that's what's happening with mine too. Do u suggest me just letting them duke it out once they hit sexual maturity? Or separating them?