My guppy has Velvet...HELP

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I'm starting a new thread, my old one was -My guppy is swimming funny...- Anyway I'm copying and pasting things from that.
-So one of my fish died recently, and he had been swimming along the top of the water with his tail drooping down. The day before he died he sat on the bottom of the tank in the gravel, and when another guppy accidentally touched him he swam away like he was spooked. i didn't think much of it, i just thought he was sick and there was nothing I could have done about it. Now another one of my guppies has the same symptoms and he is sitting in the gravel. I want to save him, and hopefully keep this disease from spreading to the other fish. What is it and how do I treat it? also both fish wobbled as they swam, like they had a hard time not tipping on to their sides.
P.S. It's a 10gal with 8 male guppies. I have green algae all over, and 2 live plants.
When I tested the water when the first fish died everything was normal. I've had the tank for a few months now. I've had guppies with ich before, it's not that. Temp is 78, I need to change the water now but I didn't when the first guppy died. I got this one at Petsmart (I've had him for a while, never had any problems) and the one that died at Petco. (He had ich and recovered a long time before he died.)
Symptoms are basically-
-Float near top, act lethargic, don't eat much
-Sit on the bottom in the gravel, act spooked
-This second guppy has a really hard time staying upright and sometimes lays on his side or ends up upside down for a little bit. He squirms around on the bottom.
He's still fighting but he's obviously miserable. I feel so bad, I'm thinking about euthanasia...
Actually, I looked into Velvet and the symptoms seem similar. I'm going to try the flashlight thingy that helps identify it.
UPDATE: Can't see any yellowy dust stuff that is a symptom of Velvet, but now that I look at him closer he is very skinny. HELP!
(p.s I feed them enough, this must be a symptom.)

Now a third guppy is in the initial stages of this. He is skinny and floats near the top but I think I can save him because he is still moderately active. I'm treating the really sick one and him in a hospital tank with aquarium salt and api melafix. I looked for copper sulfate but couldn't find any at Petsmart. Is there anything else I can do?
:thanks: for reading all that boring stuff
 
Velvet is just a parasite man, turn up the heat to 86, add a ton of salt, keep the water clean and use an anti-parasite medication, anything besides petsmart man, look for a dedicated "fish" store.
Guppies can take full on saltwater if their acclimated to it slowly, and parasites don't like it. Keep adding it everyday, and find a decent anti-ick medicine. Together with 86 degrees for a week and it will clear it up.
 
Guppys just die... they're just guppys... velvet is a bit rare..

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My really sick guppy died... but thanks! I'll try to cure the other one.
 
Velvet is just a parasite man, turn up the heat to 86, add a ton of salt, keep the water clean and use an anti-parasite medication, anything besides petsmart man, look for a dedicated "fish" store.
Guppies can take full on saltwater if their acclimated to it slowly, and parasites don't like it. Keep adding it everyday, and find a decent anti-ick medicine. Together with 86 degrees for a week and it will clear it up.

Why ich medicine?
 

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