I just ordered some fish fromliveaquaria.com. They had a sale on Botia angelicus so I couldn't resist. Although thatpetplace.com had them for less, they had sold out by the time I'd called. Anyway, the fish came today and all looked great! I ordered three Botia angelicus and six Otocinclus affinis. I have them in the QT now for observation. The B. angelicus was $9.99 and about 1.75 - 2.0" long. Those at the lfs were 3" long and $15.00 each. I like getting smaller fish cause my other loaches are small. I'll keep everyone posted on this one like I did with my aquariumfish.com order, which was very successful.