That would be one sign not to buy a fish. If they show any appearance of improper health, it's best not to purchase them. Setting up a proper <<quarantine tank>> to introduce all new arrivals is your best bet in ensuring the health of your current and future livestock in the main display tank. Since it has been about 5 days since the clown was purchased, the one spot should have made some progress by now if a parasite problem.gizmo said:she had the single white spot when i took her home.
This may also suggest the presence of fugus or lympho instead of ich or the like. The "spot" would not get that large if one of the more common protozoan parasites unless possibley an ulcer from brooklynella.Well she has one white spot just below her fin prob the size of one of her eyes
Fairly sure this is not ich or the like then. Do the spots appear like fuzzy tufts of cotton or hard and lumpy?gizmo said:Its been 7 days now and the 2 white spots haven't dissapeared. I however noticed another tiny little white dot developing, so in total now she was 3 white dots.
Keep very close watch on this as it may be an internal bacterial infection. Does the clown eat well and have you noticed it pooping?I also noticed that below the fin her belly is kinda big (is the belly near the fin?)..mayb she is pregnant?
I have personally never seen this product before but from what small bit I could glean it is a copper based med? Could you read the bottle and tell me the active ingredient list? If a fungal and internal bacterial problem, you will need to treat with something that contains nitrofurazoneI just purchased Cuprazin (by waterlife) used for treating whitespot & fungus. I haven't used this as yet as i would like to know if this product is good and should i use the product now or wait a while to see if anymore white spots develop? If i use this product and she doesn't have white spot or a fungus will it make it worse for her?
After 7 days, more reason to think it is not protozoan but rather one of the other two I mentioned. Even if the only two fish it is still very important not to treat in the display tank. The meds needed will also destroy you biological filter that keeps your NH3, NO2 and NO3 in check. Any copper based meds will kill all the fauna and prevent future additions of sessile and moblie inverts.the other nemo does not have any white spots. I don't have a quarantine tank should i set one up to cure my nemo that has the white spots? or can i cure her while she is with her partner?
I only have the 2 nemos in my tank nothing else
The meds needed will also destroy you biological filter that keeps your NH3, NO2 and NO3 in check. Any copper based meds will kill all the fauna and prevent future additions of sessile and moblie inverts.
Wow, that was some serious typing. Great effort . To be honest, they are not very forthcoming on their product :? so I have sent Waterlife an e-mail to see if they will be a bit more specific. Until then, I would suggest that you be cautious with the Cuprazin as it reads much like a chelated copper med.gizmo said:With the information i have given u about the product that i have purchased will this destroy the biological filter?The meds needed will also destroy you biological filter that keeps your NH3, NO2 and NO3 in check. Any copper based meds will kill all the fauna and prevent future additions of sessile and moblie inverts.
I connot be sure but when in doubt, don't take the chance. I would still suggest a QT if treatment becomes neccessary. I have very strong doubts whether this product will do anything for the clowns since they sound like they have a fungus and not ich. No signs of excess boby slime, right?will it be safe for me to use this product in my display tank?
As shown in the quarantine article, they are relatively easy and cheap to set up. When needed for emergency treatments (which I do not thinks yours is at the moment), filling the QT with water from the main tank ensures water parameters match and then you just need to ensure the temp is stable before the fish are transfered. Using a simple HOB filter or corner sponge filter, you can then take some media from your existing main tanks filter, wether that be bioballs, filter floss, carbon or the like. Just about anything disposable with a hard surface from the main tank will transfer the needed bacteria. The water will not though.If i set up a quarantine tank doesn't the tank need to have enough bacteria to break down ammonia, nitrite etc if i have a fish in there?
Garlic is a great antioxidant that I think many underestimate. I would not look to it as a sole cure but a great additive that can boost any treatments success. The ingredient allicin will also aid in parasite prevention (again not a cure) and help with bacterial/fungal problems.gizmo said:Does garlic also help the immune system? The guy from the fish store recommended garlic.
Yes and no. Once a fish enters the system with fungus (or lympho for that matter), the bacteria that caused the issue will come with it. Most healthy fish can easily resist the onset quite well and are normally not a concern. As I said, water changes and a bolstered diet will often clear things up without the use of a QT or meds unless severe.Is fungus contagious to other fish?
It means I can't type to save my life.. LOL. I meant to spell Body Slime. Just trying to rule out brooklynella as a possible cause which one of the signs is excess milky slime exuding away from the fishs' body...by the way what do you mean by "boby slime"?
Great news!! Keep tabs on the fish and ensure nothing else arises and they should be fine.gizmo said:U know the white spot has actually gone smaller...so hopefully things are lookin good.
Best way to ensure the fish will not be an issue for parasites or disease is to acclimate them to a proper quarantine tank for about 4 weeks before placing them in their permanent home. This will ensure you do not end up treating the main tank with something that could adversley affect the smooth operation of a healthy set up. Wild caught percs are especially prone to brooklynella hostillis. I realise their new home is on the smaller side but every effort to ensure success goes a long way.melissfish said:Im about to get my first fish Nemos, but ive been testing the water like a madwoman as they are my first marines and i dont want any fish till im sure the water is right. I will be cautious and look for blemishes though,
If a UK litre measurement (/4.5), I would only opt for one fish in that size tank as it will be too cramped for 2 percs to live comfortabley. Also be wary on using timelines to guage when additions can be made. As you've stated, you have done alot of testing so rather let those results be your guide to when the tank is ready. NH3 and NO2 should be zero and in a smaller volume, the lower the nitrates the better. Any additions of fish are sure to spike the numbers somewhat.also i am using a 30 litre tank. No problems so far 3 days till i put my fish in, i cant wait.
Excellent!!gizmo said:Guess what guys? my nemo is fine! her spots are totally gone! yipee! i'm soo happy.