Apisto ID Confirmation

[JDogg]

ok i picked this guy up today. they did not have any femals so i only got the one male for now.

i wanted three (1m/2f) Apistogramma agassizii.
although he does not look like any Apistogramma agassizii pictures i have ever seen, he was labled "Blue-Headed" Apistogramma agassizii.

is that what i got?

[severum mama]

It's definitely not agassizii IMO, but I don't have any idea what it is. I'll look around and try to find out. It's a beautiful fish, nice pickup!

[bs6749]

I looked and what I found looked like an apistogramm inconspicua.

http://fishbase.org/Photos/Thumbnail...y.php?ID=46648

Check out the middle picn on the top. Looks like your IMO.

Also note the color variation within the same species.

[severum mama]

Found it, I think I was wrong. Too bad I voted! :P I thought all the agassizis had pointed tails, or at least the males. Turns out that isn't the case!

Does this look like your fish?
http://www.aquariumfish.net/images_0...faced_w240.jpg

[bs6749]

I think you are right. The pic in the link I provided, the fish doesn't have the black line down the length of its body.

Edit: Hmmm... the female of the specie I provided appears to have a black line. Aren't these fish known commonly as "Incas"?

[JDogg]

Originally Posted by bs6749

I looked and what I found looked like an apistogramm inconspicua.

http://fishbase.org/Photos/Thumbnail...y.php?ID=46648

Check out the middle picn on the top. Looks like your IMO.

Also note the color variation within the same species.

i do not think that looks like my fish so much...

Originally Posted by severum mama

Found it, I think I was wrong. Too bad I voted! :P I thought all the agassizis had pointed tails, or at least the males. Turns out that isn't the case!

Does this look like your fish?
http://www.aquariumfish.net/images_0...faced_w240.jpg

i think that is it!
is it a variation of agassizii?

[severum mama]

Seems to be. I followed this link to the Google images from the mongabay site.

*edit* forgot to post the link- D'OH!
http://images.google.com/images?svnu...assizi&spell=1

http://fish.mongabay.com/species/Api..._agassizi.html

[JDogg]

Originally Posted by severum mama

Seems to be. I followed this link to the Google images from the mongabay site.

*edit* forgot to post the link- D'OH!
http://images.google.com/images?svnu...assizi&spell=1

http://fish.mongabay.com/species/Api..._agassizi.html

cool, thanks i did a google search but totaly different pictures then what you found came up

[Michael]

You have an Apisto Borelli

Here is one of my Borellis

[JDogg]

Originally Posted by Michael

You have an Apisto Borelli

Here is one of my Borellis

i agree that you most likely have the same species i have... but based on the pictures if found of google image search to compare you are going to have to do a little more convincing to make me think it is Borelli

[Jchillin]

Here's a borelli pic: http://cichlidae.com/article.php?id=137

and another from apisto dave at Aquabid: http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/aucti...sto&1168695354

...yet another: http://www.aquariumsite.com/fish/borellii_dwarf.php

finally: http://www.plantedtank.net/fishprofi...a-borellii/16/

To me, the main difference is in the tail fin structure.

[Michael]

It's a Borelli. Borellis come in the Blue morph and the Yellow Heads. I have both.

From Jchillins post, the last link shows the Blue Borelli
http://www.plantedtank.net/images/fish/16/62.jpg

[JDogg]

Originally Posted by Michael

It's a Borelli. Borellis come in the Blue morph and the Yellow Heads. I have both.

From Jchillins post, the last link shows the Blue Borelli
http://www.plantedtank.net/images/fish/16/62.jpg

ok, now i believe you i just needed a few pics lol

thanks everyone!

EDIT:
hummm... well the mystery continues

i posted this same topic on Cichlid-forum.com... here is the thread there...

someone posted that they have the same fish and it is a Apistogramma resticulosa

check out this link and let me know what you all think...

[Michael]

I still say it's a Borelli, but who knows. They are easilly available around me. I don't find them aggressive at all. I have them with Blue & Bolivian Rams, Cockatoos, Corys, Ottos, Cherry Barbs, small Tetras, Loaches, Pearl Gouramis and I even have Amano Shrimp and Bamboo Shrimp with them and I don't find them agressive at all.

[JDogg]

Originally Posted by Michael

I still say it's a Borelli, but who knows. They are easilly available around me. I don't find them aggressive at all. I have them with Blue & Bolivian Rams, Cockatoos, Corys, Ottos, Cherry Barbs, small Tetras, Loaches, Pearl Gouramis and I even have Amano Shrimp and Bamboo Shrimp with them and I don't find them agressive at all.

this whole thing is frustrating mostly because i need to know the species so i can find a couple females to breed him the LFs that i got hm at only has (and only ever plans to have) males because the "femals are to drab and do not sell well"

[Michael]

If it's a good LFS they should special order whatever you want.

[Gillie]

I had bought afew pairs of these fish about three years ago, and they had them labeled as assorted apistos. After about two weeks of research I found out that they were A. Resticulosa sp. Steel Blue.

[JDogg]

Originally Posted by Michael

If it's a good LFS they should special order whatever you want.

i can ask them but they are kind of "big" they have the most variety in stock and buying power of all the LFS in the area, if any store in the area has the connection to get anything you could want it would be this store. but they have never struck me as the kind of place you can go in and just ask them to order a fish for you. kind of the corporate "petco" feel in a lfs package

sad thing is they are the only store in the area where you can find apistos and dozens of other species of fish