Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater Reef Aquaria
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 10-22-2004, 12:28 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa,Canada
Posts: 98
Pistol stealing all my empty shells

I just got a pistol shrimp a couple of weeks ago...very cool animal to watch. Its quite the little sand moving machine.

The one "problem" I'm having is that it steals every single empty shell I dump in and uses them to build its Fortress of Solitude. Its using them all the way down inside its entrances and I have to assume in the tunnels as well to stabilize the sand.

So far in my 25G tank I've added 120 empty shells and there is not a single one available to my hermits!

I don't really think there is anything that can be done...just thought it was cool. Hopefully the hermits will steal them back if they really want them.

-Ron.

__________________
canadian_eh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 12:30 PM   #2
AA Team Emeritus
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,833
Send a message via Yahoo to quarryshark
Wow, must have a castle in there!!
__________________
quarryshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 12:35 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 1,757
Send a message via MSN to RocketSeason
MAN! what kinda shells!!!

thats awsome though.

tell me, are there large piles of sand building up in a mound outside of holes in your LR?

cause I have that happening in my tank and I have no idea whats doing it.
__________________
Hardware: 37 gallon SW tank and stand by Oceanic Systems, Magnum 350 Pro Canister Filter (half carbon), CPR Bak Pak 2R skimmer, Maxijet 1200 Powerhead, RenaCal 150 W heater, Compact fluorescent lights with moonlights. 40 lbs of liverock, 3" sand bed.

Software:2 Tank-Raised Ocellaris Clowns, 1 Purple Firefish, 1 Electric Orange hermit crab, 18 Blue Legged hermit crabs, 8 or so Nassarius snails, Xenia, Blue, green, and Green Striped Mushrooms.

Click here to vote for AquariumAdvice.com: The friendliest, fishiest place on the net!

Central Illinois Marane Aquarist (CIMA) member.
RocketSeason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 12:45 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 46
Sounds like a pistol shrimp. THere is a steep slope going into my pistols back door. I threw a couple krill in last night and watched the emerald crabs go crazy. One came running across the back of the tank fell down the slope into the hole. I heard a loud pop and he came running out with my pistol right behind him chased him about half way around the tank. It was pretty funny to watch since my pistol only make rare appearances but when he does he is entertaining
__________________
75 Gal Bowfront (3 months old)
30lbs Fiji 30lbs Keys 30lbs Gulf
90lbs Caribsea Aragonite seeded with 10lbs of live sand from LFS
Remora Aqua C Protein Skimmer
2 Percula Clowns
1 Orange Spotted Watchman Goby
1 Tiger Pistol Shrimp
1 Fire Shrimp
1 Coral Banded Shrimp
5 Emerald crabs
10 Scarlet Reef Hermit Crabs
10 Turbo Snails
10 Astraea Conehead Snails
Mr Crabs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 12:49 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 1,757
Send a message via MSN to RocketSeason
how do the pistols get along with coral banded shrimp? I have a few (2 or 3) small hithicker pistols in my tank and I put the coral banded shrimp in there only a few days ago.
__________________
Hardware: 37 gallon SW tank and stand by Oceanic Systems, Magnum 350 Pro Canister Filter (half carbon), CPR Bak Pak 2R skimmer, Maxijet 1200 Powerhead, RenaCal 150 W heater, Compact fluorescent lights with moonlights. 40 lbs of liverock, 3" sand bed.

Software:2 Tank-Raised Ocellaris Clowns, 1 Purple Firefish, 1 Electric Orange hermit crab, 18 Blue Legged hermit crabs, 8 or so Nassarius snails, Xenia, Blue, green, and Green Striped Mushrooms.

Click here to vote for AquariumAdvice.com: The friendliest, fishiest place on the net!

Central Illinois Marane Aquarist (CIMA) member.
RocketSeason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 12:54 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa,Canada
Posts: 98
I bought the shells from ebay like these ones
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...331401035&rd=1

At first I was just adding a few at a time every couple of days....then 2 days ago I just said forget it and dumped in probably 50-60...two days later they're all gone!!

I'll try to take a picture tonight of one of the entrances and you can see how they are used. It was so interresting to watch. First it would put a few shells together and then start piling sand on top. Then come back with more shells to plug up the holes where any sand fell through. Doing this over and over he kept extending the entrance. Its even taken to using all the pieces of LR rubble around too.

Rocket not really. The sand piles from this guy are just around the holes in the sand not in the LR. The only piles I've seen around holes in my LR turned out to be poop from a huge crab

Do you ever mess around with their holes/tunnels to force them to keep digging around or is that too mean?
__________________
canadian_eh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 12:59 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 46
Jeez just noticed I need to update my tank info
__________________
75 Gal Bowfront (3 months old)
30lbs Fiji 30lbs Keys 30lbs Gulf
90lbs Caribsea Aragonite seeded with 10lbs of live sand from LFS
Remora Aqua C Protein Skimmer
2 Percula Clowns
1 Orange Spotted Watchman Goby
1 Tiger Pistol Shrimp
1 Fire Shrimp
1 Coral Banded Shrimp
5 Emerald crabs
10 Scarlet Reef Hermit Crabs
10 Turbo Snails
10 Astraea Conehead Snails
Mr Crabs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 01:05 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 46
"Rocket not really. The sand piles from this guy are just around the holes in the sand not in the LR. "

Guess I misread that.

Sometimes he will pile sand up in a cave and I will blow it back out with a PH but he is just gonna go where he wants to go now. I tried to make him take up residence in another rock but he just kept coming back to the same rock. Its harder to see him where he is living now because his "doors" are towards the backside of the tank.
__________________
75 Gal Bowfront (3 months old)
30lbs Fiji 30lbs Keys 30lbs Gulf
90lbs Caribsea Aragonite seeded with 10lbs of live sand from LFS
Remora Aqua C Protein Skimmer
2 Percula Clowns
1 Orange Spotted Watchman Goby
1 Tiger Pistol Shrimp
1 Fire Shrimp
1 Coral Banded Shrimp
5 Emerald crabs
10 Scarlet Reef Hermit Crabs
10 Turbo Snails
10 Astraea Conehead Snails
Mr Crabs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 01:11 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 46
My pistol does not mess with anything unless something goes into or falls into his hole. I have even seen snails crawl in and come back out later injury free.
__________________
75 Gal Bowfront (3 months old)
30lbs Fiji 30lbs Keys 30lbs Gulf
90lbs Caribsea Aragonite seeded with 10lbs of live sand from LFS
Remora Aqua C Protein Skimmer
2 Percula Clowns
1 Orange Spotted Watchman Goby
1 Tiger Pistol Shrimp
1 Fire Shrimp
1 Coral Banded Shrimp
5 Emerald crabs
10 Scarlet Reef Hermit Crabs
10 Turbo Snails
10 Astraea Conehead Snails
Mr Crabs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 01:37 PM   #10
AA Team Emeritus
 
austinsdad's Avatar


 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Accokeek, Maryland
Posts: 7,694
My pistol too will only use shells near his doors to help secure them. I have however, seen his watchman goby grab small snails - still in the shell - and take them (presumably) to his shrimp buddy.

It was fun to see one snail re-appear 3 days later. Thought he was doomed to be a piece of the architecture.
__________________
-Ray-

"Life may not be the party we hoped for but while we are here we might as well dance!"

austinsdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 01:51 PM   #11
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa,Canada
Posts: 98
Do any of you target feed your pistols or just let them fend for themselves? Right now when I feed mysis I try to stick some in the sand next to an entrance.
__________________
canadian_eh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 02:05 PM   #12
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 1,757
Send a message via MSN to RocketSeason
I have no Idea where my pistols houses are, So I let them take care of themselves.
__________________
Hardware: 37 gallon SW tank and stand by Oceanic Systems, Magnum 350 Pro Canister Filter (half carbon), CPR Bak Pak 2R skimmer, Maxijet 1200 Powerhead, RenaCal 150 W heater, Compact fluorescent lights with moonlights. 40 lbs of liverock, 3" sand bed.

Software:2 Tank-Raised Ocellaris Clowns, 1 Purple Firefish, 1 Electric Orange hermit crab, 18 Blue Legged hermit crabs, 8 or so Nassarius snails, Xenia, Blue, green, and Green Striped Mushrooms.

Click here to vote for AquariumAdvice.com: The friendliest, fishiest place on the net!

Central Illinois Marane Aquarist (CIMA) member.
RocketSeason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 02:10 PM   #13
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Normal, IL
Posts: 1,397
Send a message via AIM to xxmoorishmanxx
would it be safe to put a pistol in with 2 mated watchmens? (sorry for hijack) cool story
__________________
xxmoorishmanxx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 02:22 PM   #14
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
lando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Savage, MN
Posts: 7,889
I do not target feed my pistol, he gets plenty of food at feeding time. Rocket...you should be fine with a pistol and a CBS. Mine have no problems. I think mine has dug a vast network of trails under all of my LR. I see him and my yellow matchman goby at one spot, then a few minutes later they are under a totally different rock. They go everywhere. Very cool.
__________________
lando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2004, 02:57 PM   #15
AA Team Emeritus
 
austinsdad's Avatar


 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Accokeek, Maryland
Posts: 7,694
I added a couple of high fin shrimp gobies once. The one with stripes. Often I would see the watchman and the high finned sitting there together, peacefully co-existing watching the hole. Had to take the high finned back. They kept going into the overflow eing so small.

If mated watchman, I'm thinking no problem. I don't target feed my shrimp either. But pellets work well for him. He never comes out of the hole in time to get the floating food. Been doing fine and growing in the 10 months I've had him.
__________________
-Ray-

"Life may not be the party we hoped for but while we are here we might as well dance!"

austinsdad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2004, 09:48 PM   #16
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa,Canada
Posts: 98
As promised here is a picture. Sorry it took so long but with a 2 year old and a 4 month old I don't get a lot of free time

This is one of his entrances. Not the grandest of them but the only one I can get a good shot at.

The little bugger stole a Zoo colony (about the size of a quarter) today when I fed him. He came out to grab a pellet and then thought "hey these flowers sure would look nice in my living room" and away he went with them. Luckily they got stuck part way down the tunnel but I had to tear it apart to get them back! He certainly is entertaining.

Note to self: by that crazy glue so the hermits can't keep knocking the Zoos over.
__________________
canadian_eh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2004, 01:34 PM   #17
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 1,757
Send a message via MSN to RocketSeason
he he thats crazy. I never thought that a pistol would steal zoo's!
__________________
Hardware: 37 gallon SW tank and stand by Oceanic Systems, Magnum 350 Pro Canister Filter (half carbon), CPR Bak Pak 2R skimmer, Maxijet 1200 Powerhead, RenaCal 150 W heater, Compact fluorescent lights with moonlights. 40 lbs of liverock, 3" sand bed.

Software:2 Tank-Raised Ocellaris Clowns, 1 Purple Firefish, 1 Electric Orange hermit crab, 18 Blue Legged hermit crabs, 8 or so Nassarius snails, Xenia, Blue, green, and Green Striped Mushrooms.

Click here to vote for AquariumAdvice.com: The friendliest, fishiest place on the net!

Central Illinois Marane Aquarist (CIMA) member.
RocketSeason is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
pistol, shells

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Clowns stealing anemone food? knuckles23 Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 2 05-10-2009 02:45 PM
Were do I get empty shells for my Hermits? Tank2379 Saltwater Reef Aquaria 10 09-12-2008 05:00 PM
Can pistol shrimps rip apart shells? Civicman86 Saltwater Reef Aquaria 6 07-08-2006 01:11 PM
empty shells BeGiNeR_7 Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 7 03-29-2006 01:01 PM
Empty shells MarkW19 Saltwater Reef Aquaria 34 10-10-2004 05:12 PM







» Photo Contest Winners







All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.