Possible algae? Need some help with diagnosis

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Apologies if this results in a double-post - I was editing the original and it suddenly disappeared on me.

Hi everyone,

I'm currently almost a month into my cycle of a 30-gallon freshwater tank. I've noticed what appears to be some algae growing on the driftwood (which I originally thought was just the fluffy white fungus that everyone talks about with new pieces of driftwood that are added to the tank). I wanted to get your diagnosis and advice.

There are no fish in the tank currently. The plants have been in the tank for about 3 weeks and have been doing well - not crazy growth, but they generally look pretty healthy, haven't died on me, have nice coloration, etc.. I'm dosing with Flourish, Flourish Excel, and Flourish Trace as directed on the package labeling (i.e., Flourish twice weekly, Excel daily, and Trace twice weekly). The tank is injected with CO2 using two 2 L DIY CO2 reactors; level is typically quite low (it has maxed out at 9 ppm for a couple of days but usually floats around 4-5 ppm - I am planning on upgrading this to a pressurized system in the coming weeks). My lighting is with a Finnex Planted+ 24/7 light as well as a Satellite Freshwater LED+ light. The former runs 24/7 on its cycle (which provides roughly 6 hours full blast light) while the latter is run manually for supplemental light during the day - usually for 8-10 hours a day at full blast. The substrate is about 30 lb. of EcoComplete, which comes to about a 3 in. substrate at the bottom of the tank.

About a week and a half ago, I added a piece of Mobani wood to the tank. A few days after I put the tank in, I started getting the white film everyone describes, which I wasn't too worried about. Over the last several days, however, this film started to turn into what appears to be clumps of algae.

I've added a picture below and wanted to get your thoughts. Is this dreaded algae? Or is this particularly aggressive fungus? I'm afraid it's BBA, but as this is my first tank I'm not comfortable making a diagnosis, and it doesn't look like most pictures that I've seen with BBA.

As far as I can tell, the growth is limited to the driftwood. I haven't seen it anywhere else, though one of my plants might have some very small dark spots on the leaves. It could also be residue from the EcoComplete substrate as I've had to move the plants around, replant things that come up from the substrate, etc..

I have been monitoring my water quality daily throughout the cycle. My readings from last night are:

pH - 8.2
Ammonia - 0.0
Nitrite - 0.25
Nitrate - 80
KH - 7.0

My nitrate has been hanging around the 80-160 range for the last 5 days. I've tried to manage this with PWCs, but I'm getting so much nitrate from the cycle that I'm having trouble managing this effectively. I've been using 4 Tbs of ammonia solution as my ammonia source. I add this daily (which bumps my ammonia to roughly 4 ppm, which is cleared within 24 hours). I've been thinking of reducing how much ammonia I add daily to reduce the "bioload" and, thus, how much nitrate the tank is producing. However, I'd really like to get the biofilter going strong so that I can somewhat aggressively stock the tank when the cycle is complete.

Other info on the tank:

- I have a Fluval 207 canister filter which runs 24/7.

- The temperature of the tank hangs around 86 (with a heater) - I changed this to 75 today so that I can start getting the temperature down to prepare for the introduction of livestock.

- I've got a 480 GPH power head in the tank. This combined with the output of the filter and the bubble bars provides pretty solid water flow - the plants sway throughout the course of the day, so I don't think I'm getting any significant water stasis which might promote algae growth.

- I have two bubble bars which provide some pretty good bubbling in the tank. I've read that this can make it difficult to get the CO2 level up; I may reduce this later, but I wanted to be sure I was getting enough oxygen into the tank for the biofilter.

Any suggestions for managing this? Hold back on my nutrients/fertilizers for a bit? Reduce lighting? I'm worried that my CO2 isn't high enough to match the lighting and nutrient/fertilizer schedule and I may be promoting algae growth.

Picture of the offending organism (forgive the loose plant - it came out of the substrate overnight, it will be replanted today):

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And here's an overall picture of the tank:

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Thanks a bunch for your help.
 
I'd say that is the white fuzz u get or some kind of fungus. I'd take the wood out and give it another scrub with boiling water and even spray it with some excel and water. 1-10 ratio.


30g planted, 90g Oscar tank
 
I'd say that is the white fuzz u get or some kind of fungus. I'd take the wood out and give it another scrub with boiling water and even spray it with some excel and water. 1-10 ratio.


30g planted, 90g Oscar tank

I swung by my LFS and they recommended the same. Thanks for the input.
 
FWIW, I had something similar to that appear on some mopani wood. I added a few ghost shrimp, and those guys turned into little lawnmowers. The fungus was gone in 36 hours. Not saying it would definitely work here, but I thought I'd mention it.
 
FWIW, I had something similar to that appear on some mopani wood. I added a few ghost shrimp, and those guys turned into little lawnmowers. The fungus was gone in 36 hours. Not saying it would definitely work here, but I thought I'd mention it.

Yeah, I'm definitely eager for my cycle to finish up and my tank to stabilize. Some scavengers are the first things I'll be putting in my tank so they can work on cleaning this stuff up.
 
Actually looks like fungus. Did you treat this piece before introducing it to the aquarium? I generally like to boil wood and rocks before placing them in the tank. Algae is problematic enough, and at least this method prevents introduction of foreign organisms which can wreak additional havoc in the tank. Hope this helps!
 
I believe there are substances (sugars?) released by the DW that are conducive for fungal growth. Boiling before hand may reduce it (and sanitize it). This has has happened in most of the manzanita DW I've added to my tank. Not with the Malaysian DW, though.
 
Actually looks like fungus. Did you treat this piece before introducing it to the aquarium? I generally like to boil wood and rocks before placing them in the tank. Algae is problematic enough, and at least this method prevents introduction of foreign organisms which can wreak additional havoc in the tank. Hope this helps!

I did boil it briefly but it was too large to fit completely in a pot. I ended up soaking it in water for several hours before adding it to the tank. I didn't scrub it with bleach or anything else has some sites recommended. As my pH was running high, I decided to go ahead and put it in as I was wanting the tannins to bring things down a bit. I completely underestimated how strong that effect would be though...

I ended up taking it out of the tank, giving it another thorough scrub, and put it back in the tank. We'll see how it does over the next few days.
 
I did boil it briefly but it was too large to fit completely in a pot. I ended up soaking it in water for several hours before adding it to the tank. I didn't scrub it with bleach or anything else has some sites recommended. As my pH was running high, I decided to go ahead and put it in as I was wanting the tannins to bring things down a bit. I completely underestimated how strong that effect would be though...

I ended up taking it out of the tank, giving it another thorough scrub, and put it back in the tank. We'll see how it does over the next few days.

Another way to sterilize is to put it in the oven. I've done it for larger pieces, and also works. Make sure you wrap the piece completely with aluminum foil. I set the oven to 500 and let covered wood bake for 3 hours in the center rack. This will take care of the fungus.

When done, handle with oven mits. Wood will remain extremely hot for a while. When cool, place in tank.
 
Another way to sterilize is to put it in the oven. I've done it for larger pieces, and also works. Make sure you wrap the piece completely with aluminum foil. I set the oven to 500 and let covered wood bake for 3 hours in the center rack. This will take care of the fungus.



When done, handle with oven mits. Wood will remain extremely hot for a while. When cool, place in tank.



I was worried this might make the wood weak or brittle or something like that. That doesn't happen though?

I'll keep that in mind if I get another piece.
 
Another method is to use your dish washer. Make sure u don't have any rinse aid or soaps in there and put it on the hottest longest setting and run it. Worked perfectly for me ;)


30g planted, 90g Oscar tank
 
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