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This thread needs to be broken out,
I am really curious about the work thejen is doing. I want to see that data. I'd like to add to that data.
Seeding a tank takes away from that lab work.
This is the part were I state the ugly real world truth.
You can start a 20 gallon tank with chem, a cup of gravel, a Danio, and add a couple of Tetras 7 days later, add a couple of fish a week from there. It works fine and nothing dies.
Ding, ding, ding!
We're on the same page. I have no experience with fishless cycling. I have to admit I don't trust it. I'd like to run some numbers. I think a lot of what is out there is anecdotal.
No offence taken. I don't think we are talking about the same thing.
I can bring up a stable 20 gallon tank in 7 days. I have lots of seeding material. With seeding material it's all a cake walk. You don't even need to test.
I add the Danios to test the water. If they live I add more fish.