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Old 09-26-2011, 10:26 AM   #11
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See I've heard the exact opposite u need a hardy fish to produce the ammonia
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:30 AM   #12
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fishless cycle boring? there is so much going on in my cycling tank its awesome to watch, little worms going everywhere, featherdusters waving in the current, chitons crawling all over, and a crab which i feel kinda bad that he's in there but he hitched a ride and now he's stuck till we go back to the beach.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:32 AM   #13
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I like fowlr tanks with a large fish that eats small fish
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:40 AM   #14
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He's referring to Dr. Tim's One and Only, it's bottled bacteria. Don't be fooled into thinking that it will cycle your tank instantly though. I've used both One and Only and BioSpira. They'll speed up your cycle, but not to the point that it's instant.

I'd recommend buying One and Only from Foster's and Smith. They ship it with ice packs to keep the product at its greatest effectiveness.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:44 AM   #15
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you dont need any fish at all, you can dose or use raw shrimp, in germany they pee in their tanks to get ammonia. you dont have to have a fish live in water that will kill them, or if they do happen to survive the trials in an acid bath have an extremely shortened lifespan.
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Old 09-26-2011, 12:29 PM   #16
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fishless cycle boring? there is so much going on in my cycling tank its awesome to watch, little worms going everywhere, featherdusters waving in the current, chitons crawling all over, and a crab which i feel kinda bad that he's in there but he hitched a ride and now he's stuck till we go back to the beach.
Ha agreed I loved watching my rock and seeing what came out of it. I found something new every time I looked!

But ya groupers are easily one of my favorite fish and I just hate to see one suffer. You need to ask these questions before your purchase
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:36 PM   #17
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you dont need any fish at all, you can dose or use raw shrimp, in germany they pee in their tanks to get ammonia. you dont have to have a fish live in water that will kill them, or if they do happen to survive the trials in an acid bath have an extremely shortened lifespan.
Dunno where you heard they Pee in their tanks everyone I know there don't?
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See I've heard the exact opposite u need a hardy fish to produce the ammonia
Yes they will but at the expense of the fish. Do your cycling the humane way with a shrimp from the supermarket. For more info read our article in the SW articles section on cycling.
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Old 09-26-2011, 02:22 PM   #19
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You can just cycle tanks with live rock I really think that is the best way. But everyone does what works for them lol
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Old 09-26-2011, 03:09 PM   #20
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Return that poor grouper...who ever told you that you should put a fish in your tank should be (well i have nothing nice to say)...hopefully the grouper will be alright...
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