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Old 12-31-2013, 02:21 PM   #51
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I'm not a saltwater guy myself but this is interesting. How long has the tank been set up? How long since the last water change? I would be curious to see the long term effects, not just a year.
On his profile it says a year old, so he has never done a wc
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Old 12-31-2013, 02:35 PM   #52
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Sorry, my profile is miss leading. My tank has been running for 16 months. I haven't done a water change in a year.

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Sorry, my profile is miss leading. My tank has been running for 16 months. I haven't done a water change in a year.

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Thanks for the info. I don't know if I'm convinced however. If it works for you, great. I don't think you can declare success just because the inhabitants haven't died after a year. I'd be curious about the long term issues that may arise. Will keep an eye out for maybe a year two update!
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You can go online and google 'low tech reefs' or 'low maintenance reefs' and quite a few pop up. Some use similar methods as the OP, some don't.
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:06 PM   #55
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My issue is you have not done this long enough to be saying this. I can say weekly PWC`s are a good thing because I have been doing it for 15 yrs. I have the tank and time to prove it. I have known many a person that does not do PWC`s and they eventually have a post that says something like "Why is my tank dead". When you have not done a PWC in 10 yrs and everything is fine then let me know. Sixteen months isn't going to cut it. IMO
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No Water Change in over a year

My reef is now over 20 years old and very full of corals. I do modest water exchanges now (5% every two weeks) but there were times I went long periods of time without water exchanges at all. If you carefully dose you can get away with it for a few years. But after that toxins can build up and you will see a downturn in the tank, IMO. Deep sand beds can do a fine job of nitrogen export, but they aren't miracle workers. No system is except the ocean and it has it's own problems with toxins. I started a post on this approach last week. It certainly has merit, but I don't think it's safe to believe it eliminates water exchanges permanently. Flushing out toxins you can't measure is a good policy. Even 16 months is too soon to make a general statement about the long term viability of your approach. Keep us posted as it is interesting.

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My reef is now over 20 years old and very full of corals. I do modest water exchanges now (5% every two weeks) but there were times I went long periods of time without water exchanges at all. If you carefully dose you can get away with it for a few years. But after that toxins can build up and you will see a downturn in the tank, IMO. Deep sand beds can do a fine job of nitrogen export, but they aren't miracle workers. No system is except the ocean and it has it's own problems with toxins. I started a post on this approach last week. It certainly has merit, but I don't think it's safe to believe it eliminates water exchanges permanently. Flushing out toxins you can't measure is a good policy. Even 16 months is too soon to make a general statement about the long term viability of your approach. Keep us posted as it is interesting.

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I agree with you 100%. This is my second tank. I started with a 14gal bio cube and did water changes weekly. I'm not saying I will never ever do a water change again, nor am I trying to tell people to do the same. This is more of an experiment. It does work, but I will probably do water changes in the future here and there. I just think a deep sand bed helps in making controlling nitrates easier. I think it would be great for people to incorporate deepsand beds, and deep sand bed care along with water changes as part of their tank maintenance. I respect any one that has been in the game as long as you and love your knowlege and wisdom you have to offer with this hobby. Thanks.
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Check out new york steelo on youtube. He has a lot of imformation on this topic and has more experience than myself.
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I like experiments. Just document what's happening along the way to reduce variables that could mask the results. Deep sand beds are old school. They do have the risk of releasing toxins and nuking the tank if disturbed. Something that rarely happens with skimming and live rock (Berlin method). In my case, I went for algae turf scrubbing and using algae to export excess nutrients and toxins. Just goes to show there are multiple paths to any end.
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I agree with you 100%. This is my second tank. I started with a 14gal bio cube and did water changes weekly. I'm not saying I will never ever do a water change again, nor am I trying to tell people to do the same. This is more of anf2f th experiment. It does work, but I will probably do water changes in the future here and there. I just think a deep sand bed helps in making controlling nitrates easier. I think it would be great for people to incorporate deepsand beds, and deep sand bed care along with water changes as part of their tank maintenance. I respect any one that has been in the game as long as you and love your knowlege and wisdom you have to offer with this hobby. Thanks.
The length of time since your last water change at least have proven that it works.There was another poster a while back similar as yours. I think the main point here is just to share the information to help others having problem with nitrates and so forth. It may not last for another year but it is a step to attain having a low maintenance tank. Your post is being appreciated.
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