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Old 09-16-2005, 10:08 AM   #1
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concrete objects in tanks

I may like to put some concrete structures (like a pot or something) in an aquarium as decoratios but I'm afraid it may screw up the water. Does anyone put these objects in tanks? Some of the things I've seen look very appropriate (like a primitive looking vase or pot). To me, concrete looks better than terra cotta, which I do see in tanks alot.
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Old 09-16-2005, 12:48 PM   #2
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i wouldn't risk it.

I NEVER put anything in my aquarium unless I bought it from a [acronym:beb7665b5b="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym:beb7665b5b] or unless the product specifically states its aquarium safe.

also, concrete weighs ALOT !!!!!
this will mean less water in the tank and possible cracks if it drops.
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Old 09-16-2005, 12:50 PM   #3
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Do you have a link to concrete decor? How large a tank and how large is the pot that you may want to put in?
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Old 09-16-2005, 01:08 PM   #4
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Different cements are manufactured so it would be key to know what kind of cement, contents, etc. You could also try the vinegar/acid test I believe to see if it will leech anything. I would also be concerned about weight and placement (wouldnt' want it to scratch the glass).
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I believe that concrete/cement contains limestone which would raise your pH and hardness. there may be other additives that I'm not aware of. Perhaps you could seal it with clear epoxy.

I'd be extremely cautious. Perhaps someone here knows more about concrete.
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Old 09-16-2005, 01:53 PM   #6
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This is a 180 gallon tank that will house Lake Malawi cichlids. These tanks are often staked to the top with rocks so I'm sure the weight of pot I want to put in there will be okay. What I'm looking at is a flower vase that was used outside for a long time. It is about 1 ft tall and 8" in diameter. It looks really cool to me. I'll try the vinegar test. I really think the pot/vase will be okay as cement is used an awful lot in koi ponds and such. I don't even have the tank yet so I've got plenty of time to research this question.
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i don't know a lot about concrete itself, but i'm constructing a [acronym:41de348d9d="Do it yourself"]diy[/acronym:41de348d9d] background with it. it raises your [acronym:41de348d9d="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:41de348d9d] and buffers the water, but that's what i want for my new malawi tank. i think its recommended that you cure the concrete object for about 2-3 weeks with frequent water changes and aeration in a bucket to get the [acronym:41de348d9d="power head or Measure of the concentration of hydrogen ions, depending on context"]ph[/acronym:41de348d9d] to a stable point. sometimes people add salt to help the process along.
i just started curing 2 days ago (in the tank itself). [acronym:41de348d9d="Hope this helps (or) Happy to help"]HTH[/acronym:41de348d9d].
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you posted while i was typing (i'm real slooow)...

but from what i read from your last post, the pot should be ok to put inside. i know some people let their [acronym:140f6ad596="Do it yourself"]diy[/acronym:140f6ad596] backgrounds sit outside in the rain for about 2 weeks and it's cured.
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[acronym:375d72660d="Saltwater"]SW[/acronym:375d72660d] fokes make man made [acronym:375d72660d="Live rock"]LR[/acronym:375d72660d] from concrete for there tanks, there is a resipe on garf.org.. so I would asume that its safe to use if you dont mind the water hardness issue.. wich wont be a problem for a Rift Lake tank.. [acronym:375d72660d="Hope this helps (or) Happy to help"]HTH[/acronym:375d72660d]

[acronym:375d72660d="By the way"]btw[/acronym:375d72660d]. the acid test really doesnt apply to a ARLC tank.
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So is this [acronym:c4c1680e07="Do it yourself"]DIY[/acronym:c4c1680e07] background something like rocks that are held together with cement and put up against the backside of the tank?
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