Sexing GBR

[Navcab4422]

So I absolutely love my GBR and would like to know the sex of each. I believe I have a male and female but I can't tell for sure so I thought I'd ask for some help.

Sorry about the cloudy water, I took these pics right after moving some plants around.

I believe the first two pics are the male and the third is a female

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[coralbandit]

Both look male IMO.

 

[Navcab4422]

Thank you, it's hard to tell anymore, what gives it away

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[coralbandit]

Bottom pictured fish has no blue in black spot,no red belly and its anal fin reaches the tail fin.
They can be very difficult to sex sometimes.
How do they get along?

 

[Navcab4422]

Oh must not be a good picture but the black spot is full of blue, the ram is still pretty young so the other one is a little territorial still but they've been getting better, if not it's a 75 gallon tank they both have room

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[raccioppi83]

Try looking at their vents. One will have a more squared off appearance (female) while the other will be more pointed facing backwards towards the caudal fin (male)

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[PoppaRyno]

Both look male to me as well.

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[PoppaRyno]

Top fin rays are a dead give away to me.

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[Navcab4422]

Alright thanks, here's some better pics

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[PoppaRyno]

Awsome, thanks for the new pics. With better pics now, my thoughts may have been incorrect. Second pic might be a female. See the top fin rays on the first.... His first ray is long and pronounced... says male to me. On the second its the 3rd ray thats long and pronounced. Says female to me. Im no expert though.

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[Navcab4422]

Also I took a look at the vents, in the first pic it's slightly visible and I'd describe it as a curved cone, the second one I couldn't get a good picture but it's more like a bump

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