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Old 11-03-2008, 08:09 PM   #71
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i'm interested in this project, as i'm trying to figure out a good overflow/sump system INSIDE a plywood tank I have planned.
Any updates in the past few days?

Now that it's working out for the most part, what would you do differently from the beginning? What would you recommend to someone who is planning on starting their own project and wants everything inside the main tank, and no boxes hanging off the back or sides?
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:49 AM   #72
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The tank is plywood or the stand is plywood?

A few initial points of advice I have are:
  • Go with acrylic and not glass if you don't worry about anything being scratched up. Glass is heavy, but turtles like to scratch.
  • Buy what is available instead of cutting any corners to build it yourself. I am not talking about setting it up once you get it, but buying the stand saved me time, tools, and energy. Ask yourself if you can earn the money faster than you can build your stand. If they would have sealed the wood too I would have paid for that.
  • Glasscages.com gave me exactly what I specified, but didn't offer advice on my plan, it's great that you are on here before you buy, I have had to make the best of what I bought instead of buying the best setup.
I have to go to work all day but if you have any questions I am happy to answer them.

I have the stockman standpipes installed as well as the overflow comb, my pump is bolted to the floor and would be running through reinforced vinyl tube if I could find 2 more female threaded-nipple-adapters, only store that carries them is out. If I can't then I will use 2 femal threaded-pvc-adapters and use male-threaded-nipple adapters. Will post pics once I find out why my camera isn't working.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:11 PM   #73
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the tank is going to be plywood. I'm thinking in the 225 gal range. Although I love the look of deeper tanks, so if I could get the height to 40 inches (safely of course) then it'd be a considerably bigger gallon size. In the 270gal range i would imagine
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:21 PM   #74
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I am not sure I understand why a plywood aquarium would be desired, all of the different sealants and chemicals don't seem all that safe. If money is the issue, why not save awhile for an acryllic or glass aquarium?

As to my setup:

I have redone the pump connections with re-enforced vinyl tube and have the pump firmly pressed into layers of styrofoam. The 'loudness' has disapeared. It now sounds like what I would expect from a small motor.
Everything is not exactly fine though, my lack of a female threaded adapter led to using a male one into a double ended female pvc construction, it takes up too much space and the hose is kinked at least halfway. The lack of flow is noticable, the U siphons are able to match the flow and there is no strong flow over the overflow.
It is satisfactory for now, the store says a week or two for the part I need. I am letting everything run for another day, especially to see how much the pump raises the water temp, to put the turtles in. Water is 68.1F with the pump off, in just a few hours it is already at 70.9F. 75-78 is optimal, though I donít regulate their temp in their current, smaller setup now. As long as the water isnít too hot and the basking area is around 10 degrees warmer, they do fine.
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plywood tanks last for DECADES. Like 20+ years with no problems at all. Easy to design and change your designs in building. Easy to add plumbing later, etc.

I imagine you've never really looked into plywood tank construction. If you're truly curious, do a few google searches. You'd be absolutely amazed. I've seen 480gal reef tanks that are plywood that would blow your mind. No ridiculous reinforcement needed, not even for the bowing of the sides. Very VERY versatile tanks. and the only way to go imo.

Especially with turtles. I dont like the look of turtle in an all glass tank. I like them to have 3 sides, like a cave, or the way they'd look in a lake up against the bank or something. Looks more natural to me, and a plywood tank allows you to do that, without adding in backgrounds that take away from the space
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Old 11-05-2008, 05:10 PM   #76
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Interesting, I had never heard of plywood making a good aquarium. I guess I would be interested if I hadn't already bought and setup an expensive glass tank. If turtles need to be separated later on I wouldn't know what to do, I would not buy another giant glass tank. I'll remember this if that day comes, thanks.
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Interesting, I had never heard of plywood making a good aquarium. I guess I would be interested if I hadn't already bought and setup an expensive glass tank. If turtles need to be separated later on I wouldn't know what to do, I would not buy another giant glass tank. I'll remember this if that day comes, thanks.
I try to never hijack a thread, but I'll offer some quick links just so you can get a quick idea. I immediately thought of a plywood tank in your situation and how easy it would be to remedy majority of your space problems and other obstacles you've had to overcome. Some of the links are on other forum sites. i hope that's not a no-no.


DIY plywood aquarium, 581 Gallons
http://www.jonolavsakvarium.com/eng_...200litres.html


300 Gallon Plywood tank build - MonsterFishKeepers.com
300 Gallon Plywood tank build - MonsterFishKeepers.com


Frank Panis - Building a giant plywood tank II
Frank Panis - Building a giant plywood tank II


and here's a turtle tank build of plywood. He didn't do a great job on the aesthetics of it, which is odd, because this guy does really good work. Has a custom built fish room and such. Anyway, I think it's ugly on the inside, but he did his thing
My plywood tank build - Aquaria Central
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Fin

No worries about hijacking this thread, the DIY plumbing job is done, it might actually be fitting to offer alternatives at the end.

The plumbing may be done, but now I have to ensure the turtles will be healthy and try and add some aesthetics. Gravel is not possible, nor is anything smaller than their heads, they will eat and die. Sand is recommended as an alternative, though so is a bare bottom for cleanliness.

I plan on staying active with future questions and photos of my progression in different forum topics, thanks for all the help, especially ziggy and jsoong.
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Here is an idea for an overflow:
AquaTerra Naturalistic 3D Aquarium Backgrounds, Installation
Combines aesthetics and utility.
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