Which fish can be very personal and intelligent for a 50g tank?

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Lol I think I will.
I have 2 filters, but really only want to use 1 filter.
I have Eheim 2217 classic canister -1000lph, and I have a Hopar/Biopro canister -1200lph. Both brand new. Im thinking of using the eheim even though flow rate is slightly lower. Better quality.

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That's perfect!!! Hey, people are gonna tell you that I'm wrong. Believe me, I have two oscars right now, and I can tell ya that you're fine with those filters and that tank! Just gotta keep up on your WCs, but that's with any tank. Good luck!


55 gallon- 1 tiger Oscar named Salmon

55 gallon- 4 tinfoil barbs, one small Oscar

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A huge school of tetras and two ram pairs if you go against the oscar choice


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TS, can u post pics of your tank on here?

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TS, can u post pics of your tank on here?

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Yessir! I'll take some right now :)


55 gallon- 1 tiger Oscar named Salmon

55 gallon- 4 tinfoil barbs, one small Oscar

55 gallon- freshwater community
 
Here's the big guy. He's about 6 inches:

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Here's the little guy with tinfoil barbs:

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55 gallon- 1 tiger Oscar named Salmon

55 gallon- 4 tinfoil barbs, one small Oscar

55 gallon- freshwater community
 
A 50 gallon is too small for an Oscar. And nitrates at 40-50 is twice as high as they should get. Oscars will suffer in those conditions. I have one wild caught oscar in a 125 gallon who even when by himself required 2 50%+ water changes a week. I have added a pleco and now need to do 2 larger water changes a week. I actually do a water exchange and replace 100% each time. The lutino oscar in the pic above is already stunted.
 
A 50 gallon is too small for an Oscar. And nitrates at 40-50 is twice as high as they should get. Oscars will suffer in those conditions. I have one wild caught oscar in a 125 gallon who even when by himself required 2 50%+ water changes a week. I have added a pleco and now need to do 2 larger water changes a week. I actually do a water exchange and replace 100% each time. The lutino oscar in the pic above is already stunted.


I disagree. Just keep up on your water changes and it's fine.

My lutino isn't stunted, I've done 40-50 percent WCs every week :) not all oscars get to be monster huge. In fact, you can read on several other Oscar forums that say that an oscar's growth can plateau. Besides, 40-50 nitrates in 7 DAYS is great for a single Oscar. My community tank has more at the end of the week! Lol




55 gallon- 1 tiger Oscar named Salmon

55 gallon- 4 tinfoil barbs, one small Oscar

55 gallon- freshwater community
 
I disagree. Just keep up on your water changes and it's fine.

My lutino isn't stunted, I've done 40-50 percent WCs every week :) not all oscars get to be monster huge. In fact, you can read on several other Oscar forums that say that an oscar's growth can plateau. Besides, 40-50 nitrates in 7 DAYS is great for a single Oscar. My community tank has more at the end of the week! Lol


This is wrong. He is, your WC's are not enough, 40-50 in 7 days is letting it get too high. We will have to agree to disagree. I've been raising oscars and other fish, mostly cichlids for over 25 years and have heard this same horrible story way to many times to count. I'm a mod on one of the largest online oscar communities there is and nobody there would agree with this. I would suggest try using a reputable forum. I will not respond to this any more. I have a hard time seeing bad information getting passed to others so I feel the need to speak up. Good luck.
 
Ts
From 0 to 40/50 is a massive load of nitrate in 7 days!
Typically that means overstocked. If it doesn't read zero the following day your schedule is in need of review.

I have 11 clown loach in approx 200G with a Bristlenose and they get bloodworm everyday on top of alternative foods. Most of the shoal is the same size or more than the single oscar.
(4x the water, 10x the fish, half the nitrate)

They don't produce that much nitrate in a week and I mean those weeks where the midweek W/C fails to happen.

J, I'm not sure how you can tell that fish is stunted from that picture? Then I'm no oscar pro! Not very rounded out, that's what I got.
Unsatisfied I went off and found this,

"Now I want to step back here…. remember the quotes from the beginning of the article, where it identifies a 96 hour MDL of 1,341ppm (Wow, that's a lot) for Fathead minnows. That means within 96 hours of being exposed to that level of nitrates the fish died, but it is also 100 to 1,000 times higher than any other fish in this particular study. However, this is the exact same species just mentioned in the above study, where testing identified the physiological effects of nitrates could be detected in concentrations as little as 21ppm (on the exact same species - Fathead minnow) and these impacts became “significant” at 41.6ppm. Think about that. Fathead Minnows are an extremely hardy fish, considered amongst the most hardy of all fish, capable of withstanding levels of ammonia and nitrate far beyond most other fish, and the physiological impacts of nitrates can be detected in this species at concentrations as low as 21ppm. Do we think our Oscars and South American Cichlids can do better? When Oscars and South American Cichlid's have evolved to survive in near nitrate free water and Fathead Minnows are commonly found in polluted waters incapable of supporting other species of fish?"
Taken from,
Is Nitrate Toxic? A Study of Nitrate Toxicity

Nitrate should be as close to zero as possible.
 
They look like standard convicts. Hard to see. But convicts are also very beautiful and personal. Ive owned a few.

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I can see how you would say that by the pics but in real life they are very different. First is personality they aren't nearly as aggressive. 2nd the blues are like a sky blue with darker blue stripes and they get a blue metalic sheen on them like a powder blue gouramie they aren't grey and black like cons. The platinum are pure white not pink and they get either a blue or golden sheen on them.

I would also agree with the others that say Oscar is to big for a 55. Someone showed a pic of a 6" in a 55 but in 6 months it will be double in size.
 
This is wrong. He is, your WC's are not enough, 40-50 in 7 days is letting it get too high. We will have to agree to disagree. I've been raising oscars and other fish, mostly cichlids for over 25 years and have heard this same horrible story way to many times to count. I'm a mod on one of the largest online oscar communities there is and nobody there would agree with this. I would suggest try using a reputable forum. I will not respond to this any more. I have a hard time seeing bad information getting passed to others so I feel the need to speak up. Good luck.


I am the head admin of Aquarium FINatics, a large fish community on facebook. They would agree with me. You are the conservative type of fish keeper. You think every fish should have a 5000000 gallon tank. ONE Oscar in a 50 gallon tank, with one 50-70% WC a week is FINE, anything less 50 gallons isn't.





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A 50 gallon is too small for an Oscar. And nitrates at 40-50 is twice as high as they should get. Oscars will suffer in those conditions. I have one wild caught oscar in a 125 gallon who even when by himself required 2 50%+ water changes a week. I have added a pleco and now need to do 2 larger water changes a week. I actually do a water exchange and replace 100% each time. The lutino oscar in the pic above is already stunted.

This is wrong. He is, your WC's are not enough, 40-50 in 7 days is letting it get too high. We will have to agree to disagree. I've been raising oscars and other fish, mostly cichlids for over 25 years and have heard this same horrible story way to many times to count. I'm a mod on one of the largest online oscar communities there is and nobody there would agree with this. I would suggest try using a reputable forum. I will not respond to this any more. I have a hard time seeing bad information getting passed to others so I feel the need to speak up. Good luck.

Op This is correct Please don't follow the other advice. I back up what jmunroe is saying 100%.
 
Op This is correct Please don't follow the other advice. I back up what jmunroe is saying 100%.


I give up. Who cares that I kept an oscar in a 40 breeder for three months. My nitrates weren't out of control! I speak from experience. Honestly, that is what I do not like about this forum! Everyone thinks that each fish is supposed to have a 100000000 gallon tank!

OP, you can keep an Oscar in a 50 gal.




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I give up. Who cares that I kept an oscar in a 40 breeder for three months. My nitrates weren't out of control! I speak from experience. Honestly, that is what I do not like about this forum! Everyone thinks that each fish is supposed to have a 100000000 gallon tank!

OP, you can keep an Oscar in a 50 gal.




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Its not just the knowledgeable people on here
http://www.oscarfishlover.com/forum...does-my-tiny-oscar-need-a-55-gallon-or-larger

Oscar Cichlid, Astronotus ocellatus, Tiger Oscar Fish Guide

Guide to initial Setup for an Oscar Fish Tank

Enough said from me.
 
I am the head admin of Aquarium FINatics, a large fish community on facebook. They would agree with me. You are the conservative type of fish keeper. You think every fish should have a 5000000 gallon tank. ONE Oscar in a 50 gallon tank, with one 50-70% WC a week is FINE, anything less 50 gallons isn't.





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What?! That's utterly useless here in AA where we don't cram diner plates in our pockets.. the fact of the matter is.. an oscar will be "ok" in a 55 for the first few months of its life.. it's rather pointless however as a properly reared oscar will quickly reach the size of a football.. bioload aside. The shear size of a "properly" grown oscar in a 55 gallon tank would look pretty aweful.. like shamu in a kiddie pool.. perpetuate your ignorance with all your Facebook lackeys.. fine.. keep it out this forum please.. i don't own an oscar. . I'd like too.. i bought a 75 gal for one..yes one.. After seeing a return to my lfs, the boomerang fish came back.. they had him in a 125gal sump. No other space for his massive body,.I'll hold out for a 6x2x2. .. good luck

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I know there are a lot of very knowledgeable people here. But, it just seems like everyone wants to step on other people. In my opinion, after keeping an Oscar in a 40 gallon (he's in a 55 now that he's bigger), one Oscar is fine in a 50 gallon. I DID say that the OP may have to upgrade.

I'm just tired of being treated like a beginner! I've been doing this for a while now and I haven't lost a fish in over a year! OH and I started a year ago! I also know what I'm doing. In the end, it's the OPs decision. OP, in my humble opinion, I believe that one Oscar, with good WCs, is fine!


55 gallon- 1 tiger Oscar named Salmon

55 gallon- 4 tinfoil barbs, one small Oscar

55 gallon- freshwater community
 
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