yhbae
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Ok, just like many who ended up getting sucked into this aquarium hobby, I started with one tank, then became two, then now three - first is my community tank (25g), second is my breeding tank (10g) and third is my raising tank (33g) to raise any fries I may end up with but doesn't fit in the community tank.
Then thoughts came into my mind - what do I do with them when they grow up? I hear about others getting store credits on these fries that are large enough for them to immediately resell.
So my question is, which are good sepcies to raise for this purpose? I could add another raising tank for this purpose to fund the rest of my aquarium hobby expense, if possible. Not interested in getting cash, store credits would be great!
Some possibilities:
- Platies: Super easy, but probably worth almost nothing. Also it will take months to get them to the sellable size. Since they are live bearers, I probably won't be able to accomodate more than 20 of them or so in my 33g tank.
- Cardinals: If I can get them to breed in my local water condition, it may work out. Most LFS in my area don't carry them, and if they do, often carries $3CA price, which dies easily. I guess most don't like the wild-caught ones that dies easily, so they don't carry them at all. Strong local-bred cardinals may be easier to sell. Besides, they are thin and their bioload is small, so I could probably fit probably 100 in the 33g for raising.
- Cories: Doesn't look good in most cases since they don't command high price, and they grow real slow. I picked up some panda cories - over here, I only found one store that carries them, and costs $9CA each! Due to their unique look, I suspect it would be easy sell by the stores if the price was reasonable. Even at that price, the whole tank was sold out in few months. Since they are small, I can probably hold many, just like the cardinals. Could be an interesting option.
- Blue Ram: These go for around $7-10CA here. It's relatively rare in this region, and looks pretty. Since they are cichlids, they must command high bioload (similar to platy), so in order to get them to sellable size, it will probably take as much room as platy fries. Once grown, they will probably be worth significantly more than platies though.
- Harlequins: About $3CA around here, except for one place where they offer them at 3 for $5CA. Easy to sex them, and relatively easy to breed them. Pretty easy on water condition too (compare to some of the above). Not sure about the price of fries, since they are pretty common - I have yet to see an LFS that doesn't carry them, so probably as little as platy fries, although I can hold much more in the same tank.
- Pearl Gouramies: I thought it might be a good idea until I studied more. They cost about $5CA around here, which is a good selling price. But they are all pretty large already, at around 2 inches. To raise them to that size, it takes a while, not to mention the bioload factor. I don't expect to commodate more than 25 or so in the 33g tank. Better than platy, but worse than just about everything else.
- Discus: I have no idea what I'm talking about here... I dunno how to even take care of them, but just for the sake of it, I did some calculation. Outcome, unfortuantely, is that since Discus dies easily under 3 inches or so, it take a while to get them to the sellable size (does anyone know how long exactly?). Since I would still get the store credit, I don't expect more than 1/4 of the store price, which brings it down to around $10CA level. In my 33g, I can probably hold no more than 10 of them, economically, it doesn't quite work for me... (I'd still like to create a community tank with those in it one day...)
- Frontosa... :O: Yes they get big, but if I can get a huge tank and some fries, I can raise them for about 1 year, and eventually get some fries. From what I have read so far, the main challenge is the size of the tank as these mouth brooders are somewhat easier to obtain the fries without killing them. Around here, 2 inch fries cost $30CA or so - nice price. Big problem is the big tank which I don't currently own, but I could if I wanted it badly...
I am willing to learn the process and put decent amount of effort into this hobby, which I enjoy alot. Challenging species would be ok as long as it is feasible using the current equipment. My 24 hours old water parameter out of the tap is pH=6.8, KH=2, GH=5 and all the tanks have decent amount of java moss and ferns.
Has anyone successfully bred fries for this purpose, and continuing to have success? What did it take you to achieve this?
Then thoughts came into my mind - what do I do with them when they grow up? I hear about others getting store credits on these fries that are large enough for them to immediately resell.
So my question is, which are good sepcies to raise for this purpose? I could add another raising tank for this purpose to fund the rest of my aquarium hobby expense, if possible. Not interested in getting cash, store credits would be great!
Some possibilities:
- Platies: Super easy, but probably worth almost nothing. Also it will take months to get them to the sellable size. Since they are live bearers, I probably won't be able to accomodate more than 20 of them or so in my 33g tank.
- Cardinals: If I can get them to breed in my local water condition, it may work out. Most LFS in my area don't carry them, and if they do, often carries $3CA price, which dies easily. I guess most don't like the wild-caught ones that dies easily, so they don't carry them at all. Strong local-bred cardinals may be easier to sell. Besides, they are thin and their bioload is small, so I could probably fit probably 100 in the 33g for raising.
- Cories: Doesn't look good in most cases since they don't command high price, and they grow real slow. I picked up some panda cories - over here, I only found one store that carries them, and costs $9CA each! Due to their unique look, I suspect it would be easy sell by the stores if the price was reasonable. Even at that price, the whole tank was sold out in few months. Since they are small, I can probably hold many, just like the cardinals. Could be an interesting option.
- Blue Ram: These go for around $7-10CA here. It's relatively rare in this region, and looks pretty. Since they are cichlids, they must command high bioload (similar to platy), so in order to get them to sellable size, it will probably take as much room as platy fries. Once grown, they will probably be worth significantly more than platies though.
- Harlequins: About $3CA around here, except for one place where they offer them at 3 for $5CA. Easy to sex them, and relatively easy to breed them. Pretty easy on water condition too (compare to some of the above). Not sure about the price of fries, since they are pretty common - I have yet to see an LFS that doesn't carry them, so probably as little as platy fries, although I can hold much more in the same tank.
- Pearl Gouramies: I thought it might be a good idea until I studied more. They cost about $5CA around here, which is a good selling price. But they are all pretty large already, at around 2 inches. To raise them to that size, it takes a while, not to mention the bioload factor. I don't expect to commodate more than 25 or so in the 33g tank. Better than platy, but worse than just about everything else.
- Discus: I have no idea what I'm talking about here... I dunno how to even take care of them, but just for the sake of it, I did some calculation. Outcome, unfortuantely, is that since Discus dies easily under 3 inches or so, it take a while to get them to the sellable size (does anyone know how long exactly?). Since I would still get the store credit, I don't expect more than 1/4 of the store price, which brings it down to around $10CA level. In my 33g, I can probably hold no more than 10 of them, economically, it doesn't quite work for me... (I'd still like to create a community tank with those in it one day...)
- Frontosa... :O: Yes they get big, but if I can get a huge tank and some fries, I can raise them for about 1 year, and eventually get some fries. From what I have read so far, the main challenge is the size of the tank as these mouth brooders are somewhat easier to obtain the fries without killing them. Around here, 2 inch fries cost $30CA or so - nice price. Big problem is the big tank which I don't currently own, but I could if I wanted it badly...
I am willing to learn the process and put decent amount of effort into this hobby, which I enjoy alot. Challenging species would be ok as long as it is feasible using the current equipment. My 24 hours old water parameter out of the tap is pH=6.8, KH=2, GH=5 and all the tanks have decent amount of java moss and ferns.
Has anyone successfully bred fries for this purpose, and continuing to have success? What did it take you to achieve this?